Biker enters gas-station with helmet and shades on...

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yesterday a guy with his hat on sideways and pants down low came into my motorcycle shop. i quickly racial profiled his gangsta self and set up, but he wanted directions to the local mall. very disappointing so i tazed him for the low pants.

if the helmet said shoei or simpson or arai you know there is nothing to worry about,they are wearing a 450 dollar helmet. i hate leaving one beside the gas pump while i stand in line indefinately behind 10 people buying lottery tickets. like mentioned i dont think DOT helmets are bullet resistant. the BMW or Goldwing might have been another clue. what if he had pocketed a snickers bar and headed for the door...?

maybe im immune to the helmet thing since i sell them. now if a guy walked in with that bag over his head....
 
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Wait a minute folks! I used to be a biker myself...

Some of you got this completely wrong.
There is no prejudice about bikers, I rode motorcycles myself for years.

The situation around here is that signs on each gas station ask you to take off your helmet and sunglasses because gas stations here get robbed on a regular basis by armed criminals covering their faces with helmets and sunglasses. So if a guy enters a gas station with his helmet and shades on around here, everybody around here is alert.

Why get ready to intefere at all? Just because I wouldn't like to see an innocent bystander die while I could have prevented that. But that's just me.

Interesting how that is always the assumption in these things, that when the GG intervenes that everything happen just right and there won't be any problems and nobody will get hurt except the BG.
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Wow. Another professor of critizism. But to counter that in your terms: I shoot "El Presidente" at 76yds (seventy six yards) with a 9-A 3-C score from my every day carry weapon. I actually do assume that I can hit a brain stem at 4yds if the BG doesn't even move or see me. But again, that's just me.

If discussions around here continue being so pointlessly aggressive and dull, I'd rather talk to my guns about this.
 
Sorry if you rode motorcycles for years and were a member of an avid hobby. Why are you shopping at that gas station. When im in a state that requires helmets i dont take it off wether i have to go in or not. Thats few brief minutes and I usually want to get back on the road. But I guess my main question is what would you have done if the rider and the attendant would have smacked someone upside the head or anything in that nature. Cause I personally know 4 attendants in the area. Your brief stereo type could have lead to someone getting shot. A good ccw carrier notices more than just bikers and helmets. Like clothing, imprinting, and surroundings. If a guy is imprinting a gun watch him close. Most guys carry wallets in the back pocket so if he keeps reaching in his jacket watch him close. but if both hands are vissible and a hand isnt clutching something in that bag. Dont assume its a threat just cause hes a biker. You payed attention to the type of shades, probably could tell us wether it was a 1/2, 3/4 or full helmet. and you could go as far as telling us about his jacket. What if it was a kid with a loud stereo system and baggy clothing talking that damn jungle language. These are reasons I pull into places that are pay at the pump when im out of town. And something about this storry sounds made up. But I am 100 percent in agreement with oj and saab1911.
 
IIRC, Para Bellum is in a European country where some of the rules are different. That may explain a little bit of the disconnect here.

Since I'm not aware of the "type" of biker that is performing the robberies he mentions, it's hard to make general rules about the outfit the robbers are using.

The good part of this story was that Para was alert to the possiblity of trouble and planned his tactics while watching for the red flag to pop up.

The bad part of this story is that Para's reaction was based on tunnel vision and very limited observed data. He essentially reacted to a single "data point" - a helmeted biker. Was the bike parked just outside the "office"? Or at the pump? Was he alone or in the company of another outside? Did the biker pause outside to make sure he'd be alone at the register? Or did he survey the activity before entering? All of these items would help indicate the absence or presence of a threat.
 
Folks, I'm out of here. What you write has nothing to do with my post.

Your brief stereo type could have lead to someone getting shot. A good ccw carrier notices more than just bikers and helmets.
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The bad part of this story is that Para's reaction was based on tunnel vision and very limited observed data.
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Folks, I'm out of here. What you write has nothing to do with my post.
I am not going to visit this thread again so keep on writing on whatever you like, tunnel, vision, stereotypes and magic mushrooms.

Just to translate, what I wrote:
The guy had a full helmet likte this one:
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...and he was wearing shades. In an area were robbers frequently rob gas stations disguised exactly that way. And he ignored the "Helmets Off!" sign at the sliding door of the gas station. But who cares about information if all one wants is to blame somebody of "tunnel vision", "limited observation" and eating children.
 
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