Biggest threat to America?

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tjhands

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I'd like your opinions and ideas as to what YOU believe is the main threat to the American way of life - and by that, I mean the America that our forefathers envisioned and created. Is it gun laws, unchecked immigration, secularization, the ACLU, or something totally different? I'd like to hear thoughts from any and all camps - not that they're all visiting this website, but I know that there are differing thoughts here, and I'd like to hear them.

My personal opinion involves all of the above, but I think these things are just some of the myriad symptoms of a much bigger illness.

Ala Bill O'Reilly, what say YOU? :cool:
 
The President, the Congress, and the Supreme Court are the biggest threats to liberty in the US. Everything else we can deal with appropriately.
 
Honestly, I think the biggest threat to our way of life IS our way of life.

We have settled in to a comfortable prosperity, and no political party or other group is very interested in anything that doesn't maintain a comfortable version of the status quo.

We no longer have a Cold War, Space Race, New Deal or World War to challenge us and promote progress and growth-inducing change.


Hunkering down and attempting to hold everything steady is going to kill us. A business that isn't growing is slowly dying - the same applies to societies. We need to become interested in a new direction for the whole nation. It is likely going to be space, but any new frontier or technology that is sufficiently world changing would work. Especially if it changes the current dynamics of how our economy links to the rest of the world.


I really think that terrorism and internal political squabbling are really small time problems in the long view.
 
What constitutes the "biggest threat" probably varies from time-to-time and also depends on whose ox is being gored. I agree that the erosion of the Bill of Rights over time is grave, as is our consumer driven life-style. However, at the moment I would tend to think that the porous southern border and illegal immigration is the biggest single culprit, contributing to increased crime (which, in turn, tends to lead to increased calls for erosion of the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment), increased population, inflation, increased tax burden, loss of jobs....the list is long. We absolutely need to gain control of our borders, what greater duty does the Federal government have to the people than to protect us from illegal or hostile incursion by foreign governments or individuals?
 
without a doubt its illegal immigrants. they can get a minimum wage job and live like kings what with the free healthcare and educations for thier multiple kids. im tired of footing the bill for those criminals, arent you?
 
I know that I'm going to get flames for this, but the ACLU protects all of us. Except for the Second Amendment rights, what they are doing is to protect us all. They have even defended Rush Limbaugh, and the KKK. They try to protect all of the Bill of Rights (except for the Second Amendment) to keep all of us from government oppression (except for letting us do it with guns). You did ask opinions from other camps, right?

The biggest threat? My vote goes towards protecting our borders too.
 
Some thought-provoking ideas, fellas - thanks.

Handy, you site change and challenges as necessary ingredients to preserve the country as we know it. I don't at all disagree, but don't you believe that groups like the ACLU indeed have change as their main objective? They and other radical organizations seem to be hell-bent on shaking the foundation of the nation and its ideals.
As far as "space" goes - assuming you meant outer space and not space, as in "gimme some space" - I'm not used to that being a topic that people acknowledge as realistic or important. I see it as one of the, perhaps THE, main thing upon which the future of mankind depends. We humans have doctored the earth up enough so that we can and do reproduce all year round and have - at least in this and other 1st world nations - an infant mortality rate of close to zero, not to mention living until 100 and beyond. We've already passed the point of no return as far as being "at one" with nature and living in balance with the environment. Really, if we are to survive for more than another few hundred years, we have to find a way off this crowded rock and colonize other planets, moons, etc. There will come a time - possibly in my lifetime - where no more sardines can be squished into the can.

YIKES, forgive me for getting off-topic there!! :D

Carry on, folks. It's good to hear other ideas.
 
Handy hit the nail home on sentence number one.........

Along with modern technology and robotics we have gotten lazy. I think that includes parenting too........ You say - wait what the heck is Rojoe talking about...... I can't understand how as parents and teaching kids the right path, we as a nation hit some good sized holes in the road. Don't get me wrong, my kid's as well as your's are THE FUTURE........and most are outstanding young citizens.

The modern media and it's ability both on TV and in the papers seldom makes it any easier for parent's either..... I am glad my oldest child of 14 years of age can see through the slant dished up on the media circus wagons. I am worried a lot of kids unsupervised while both parents have to work.....watch and think all they see is real and not twisted or distorted. OK, fire away and egg me if you wish but that is my view from my side of the fence...... ;)
 
Novus collectus,

The ACLU has a great name. Just looking at the name, you'd think that they had all of our best interests at heart. They are wolves in sheep's clothing! Any group that fights for child porn rights, illegal immigrants, banning displays of navity at Christmas time, banning the Pledge of Allegiance and the singing of Christmas carols in schools, does NOT have the best interest of the people in a Christian society at heart. This nation was founded on Christianity and it would not BE here without it.
 
Yup, I did ask for opinions, novus collectus, and I respect yours. :p I just think that the ACLU has a major agenda which belies its cozy name.
 
Tjhands,
I will not get into the seperation of church and state and the forefathers being considered heathens by evangelicals because of their sacraligous deistic beleifs right now. It would take pages of posts for me to completely respond. Maybe if you start another thread I will respond. Right now, I will not touch this with a ten foot pole.

What kind of a Christian was Thomas Paine? I see him quoted by the right all the time.
 
This nation was founded by Masons who created our Constitution. For some reason modern Christians don't care for Masons. So I guess I get a little confused about what sort of people founded our SECULAR government, since they wore so many apparently incompatible hats.

I certainly don't think Jefferson would have won many "Best Christian" awards for his views. He certainly didn't like mixing faith and government.


The ACLU goes overboard, but they almost have to to continue to have an impact. They are fighting both in courts in the public awareness to remind everyone that this country is NOT about anyone groups pet religion or ethnic prejudice. They end up doing some dumb stuff at times, but the dialogue they create is entirely healthy. I think the founding father's would be more simpathetic then you believe.
 
Hehehehe, Handy, I happen to be a Master Mason myself, and can assure you (for what it's worth, coming from a total stranger), that Masons are devoted Christians. Masonry is NOT a religion unto itself. The mistrust and suspicions of the non-Mason population comes purely from ignorance. I don't mean ignorance in an insulting way, but simply that since they are not allowed to sit and observe a Masonic meeting, they assume that we are their worst dreams......sex with goats, devil worship, etc. :p We say the Pledge of Allegiance, and pray to God before and after each meeting.
Saying that Masons are non-Christians is a dead-end. It's THE corner stone of the fraternity.
 
Handy I totally agree. Although I disagree with a FEW of ACLU's actions, I realise the need for them. The founding fathers wanted a seperation of church and state to PROTECT CHRISTIANS. They had come from a country that had a history of one christian group oppressing another. The evangelicals would not like it if congress started with a Catholic communion and no other service was allowed now would they? The type of christian (and many of our forefathers) that Washington was, he would have accepted evolution as a fact today. His very belief was so different from what many of today's christians beliefs are that they would call him the son of the devil.

It is always argued that we should be allowed to have nativity scenes on government property at Christmas time. But what would you say if the church that erected it believed that Jesus was black? Asian? The Nudist Christian church would believe that the wise men and Mary should be naked. Where does it end? I say that we never let it start. Everyone has a right to practice their religeon without having the government say or imply how they should worship their god. That is what the forefathers wanted.
 
The very fact that masons are looked upon as devil worshipers proves the point. What is one Christians belief is another Christians sin, or so they believe so often.
 
Selfish, indulgent apathy. Desire for instant gratification. Political correctness run amock resulting in the notion that everybody's opinion has validity and must be accepted. Failing to recognize that there is a difference between tolerance and granting moral equivalency.

I concur regarding TV. Yes, we can turn it off. But I grind my teeth every time I hear some blissninny spewing that TV, music, and movies have no effect on people. If that is true, why are billions of dollars spent each year for advertising in those venues? Why does one catch oneself humming inane jingles, or have slogans running through one's mind?

The place where these attitudes can be reversed is in our schools. Continue to support home schoolers, charter schools (because these kids tend to have very involved parents) and try and take over local government school boards which have become infested with rubber stamps for left wing socialist administrators, and teacher union executives. Due to our apathy we have allowed them to turn many of our public schools into propaganda mills for revisionistic history and garbage courses such as Chicago Math and The Whole Word Reading methodology. Kids can't reason well anymore as a result. They can't read, so they can't understand. Rote memorization in old math trained the mind to be able to reason. Same with english, diagraming etc.
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