"Bigger is better" goes overboard

I have already posted my thoughts once on this topic about what I thought about people who could not handle large caliber hand guns. BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO CAN SHOOT LARGE CALIBER HANDGUNS ACCURATELY. I dont see what the problem is whith some on this forum. Caliber Envy? I mean there is a place for guns larger than a .45 caliber.
 
Well, this may be pretty obvious, but just like Ford said, some of us shoot large calibers well. In fact, of all my guns, I shoot my .454 Casull most accurately, and if it were cheaper to shoot, I'd shoot it the most too, because I REALLY like it. Once you have proper shooting technique down, shooting a very powerful gun forces you to practice carefully, consetrating on trigger control and other princibles! Otherwise, you're just wasting money and time. I can hit 8" steel plates at 100 yds. with it about 8 out of 10 times...but I think more practice would help. BTW, I DON'T carry it. ;) Riddle of Steel, I'm borrowing one of your quotes...ok?

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote.
 
Great picture Greg! It had me ROTFLAL. Where can I buy one of those?

Frank
 
Does that come in +P+?

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Strange I found this string. Today while I was at the range my training officer presented a picture of a Chicago Police Officer holding a 8 inch Smith & Wesson Model 29 in uniform. It was the officer's primary carry gun and allowed by the department if he also carried a regulation gun. On a particular New Year's Eve a few years back he used it to shoot a shotgun wielding type show shot at him from afar. One shot dispatched the delinquent youth. The officer was a Sgt. J. Kasola who is the technical director for Chuck Norris and others who film in Chicago. He appears in a red coat in Code of Silence with that gun in a bar scene. He also appeared with a talking part in The Fugitive and was a technical director in that famous film. I was told he is now retired. I shall attempt today before I leave on business to obtain that photograph and scan it and place it here. I think it is most interesting
CHEERS!
 
Does it come in purple? How about pink for my wife? Remember that old Ameican wasp proverb-the bigger the bore, the bigger the bore. :)


[This message has been edited by ak9 (edited March 11, 2000).]
 
Well, certainly there are dolts who think that if they at least shoot a mag (whether they hit anything or not) that they must be the biggest dog on the yard. And to choose a weapon/cartridge that they are incapable of properly handling as a primary choice for self defense...well, all I can say is survival of the smartest, and Heaven help the innocent bystanders who are near by when he lets loose. That guy is either the dumbest Rambo wannabe or is just trying to prop up his ego and cover up his poor shooting in front of witnesses by stupid boasts.

As for that old theory about relating gun size/caliber to reproductive organ dimensions has got to be the biggest load of BS I've ever heard. Well second biggest. The biggest has to be the guy at Pennsylvania Ave.

Some people want/need them for hunting. Others, for collecting (like me), for entertainment (me again), and for just being abused by the recoil (again like me, I like the pain, he he). As another had mentioned, after shooting a .44mag or .454Cas or a short barrel .357mag (and hopefully .475Line), I'll shoot my 9mms right after and hold them like a brainsurgeon with a scalpel. Of course I don't shoot them as often as the .22s, 9s, 10s, and .45s but I've got them whenever I get the urge for some lock-jaw (I tend to clench my teeth tightly (reflexively) when firing the mags), they are ready to go. And I do try to use the farthest stall from other shooters.

- Ron V.
 
I think anyone that practices good marksmanship techniques and can effectively hold a big gun should be able to shoot it well.

I think that big guns in the hands of novices can (notice i said "can" and not "do") build bad habits if left uncorrected. The loud bang and recoil can be a problem.

However, the loud bang is one of the things that makes me like big guns. Nothing like hearing a large caliber handgun go off to make you think that you have summoned the power of an angry god. Of course I only go as big as a .357 cause they do jsut what I want but have seen ruger and s&w .44 that I did admire enough to own given unlimited funding. ddt
 
Well, I'd rather hike with my Ruger .454 than my .45 ACP, let alone a tiny 9 mm. Better to go unarmed than to risk pissing a bear off with a wound. I've read too many stories in the Anchorage Daily News about bears, even black bears, running off with .357 or .44 mag. rounds in them. A shotgun with slugs would, of course, be ideal. But it's too big of a pain to carry around, esp. up mountains, and I doubt I'd have time to get it ready if I got nailed. It's also useless once a mauling starts.

As far as accuracy, any difficulties hitting the target can only be cured with practice, practice, and more practice, whether your weapon is a .22 or a .454. When I started shooting .45 ACP, I could barely hit the target. It's just a matter of getting used to the weapon (though I don't know if I'm ever going to get used to the mule kick from my Ruger!).
 
44 mag, Excellent round. unfortunately the best revolver for it (the 4" or 5" 629) is a bit large and heavy for carry. It has my vote for THE kick butt handgun round.
 
Hey, look, shooting the big maggies is like any high-end expertise. You gotta focus, you gotta practice, and you have to train your mind to ignore such things as recoil and muzzle-jump. You work on trigger-control, so you don't really know when it's going whoopee and the rest is just all beside the point.

My uncle psyched me out as a kid about recoil, and I've never been particularly sensitive to it. I'll take luck over skill, any day.

The best example I know of is a guy who works as an armorer for BATF. His idea of fun is around 100 rounds a week of full-house .44 Mag.

So, he buys a Raging Bull. With hot load 260-grain bullets, he double-taps on multiple targets like most guys wish they could do with a 9mm. He stands by my bench rest and clangs my 185-yard hanging plate. I will say that with the muzzle-brake built on to that Bull, it's no worse than a .44 Mag--other than that Godawful noise!

It's a lot more mental than physical. It's like the fella said about the dog who ran slap into the doorframe, leaving the house: "He ain't bilnd; he just don't care!" No pain, no gain.

:), Art
 
they asked jeff cooper once why he carried a .45. his reply "because they don't make a .46." a guy that runs a gun store i frequent was once asked by a rookie gun buyer what was the best handgun/caliber. after the traditional disclaimer about that he needed to go rent/shoot some guns and decide on his own. the gunstore owner told him the following. "Choose a handgun type you like and feel comfortable with. One that fits your hand and that you are able to work the controls well. Be aware that single action handguns and guns with decockers require a level of training so you don't forget to activate the safety or decock. When you figure all that out pick the biggest caliber you can shoot well. Because hollowpoints can not be counted on to expand in all conditions. After all that the only thing left is to practice." good advice i feel.

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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote.
Let he that hath no sword sell his garment and buy one.--And they said. Lord here are two swords. And he said unto them. That is not enough. Luke 22-36,38
They all hold swords, being expert in war: every man hath his sword upon his thigh because of fear in the night. Song of Solomon 3-8
 
It seems there are two different factions here. For those of you that live in the city enjoy your indoor shooting ranges and your 9mm's. When you head out in the woods leave it at home it will just **** off a bear and it wont stop a ticked off bull elk in rut thats running up your ***. Those of us that live closer to the wild areas will always prefer are large handguns be it 44, 45, or 454. personally I prefer my 454. By the way I would take the mountains over the city life anyday.
 
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