Biden to put Beto O'Rourke in charge of gun control

Not up set at all with Biden telling someone they were full of "it".

Considering what his eventual opponent has said to and about ordinary citizens, what Biden said was very mild sauce.

Biden will be a less competent Obama. If you remember Obama gave the final ok for concealed carry. That was the only change to gun laws or regulations made during his two terms.
Odds are Biden will be just as successful as Obama.
 
Obama did everything he could to down play his desire to disarm Americans until after he was reelected. Once he didn't have to face another election cycle, he went nuts but he never ran on a gun control platform. On the other hand it was well known that RINO McCain was for gun control and many could not hold their nose and vote for him and stayed home on election day.

Tony
 
Buzzcook said:
Odds are Biden will be just as successful as Obama.
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I would hope that your assessment is correct, but I don't think it is. IF Biden wins the election, he'll carry both the House and the Senate, and if we get anti-gunners controlling the executive branch AND both houses of Congress, it's Katie bar the door.
 
Time will tell. I have no crystal ball. Worrying is meditating n a bad outcome.

Unfortunately, Trump has been such a total screw up that millions of voters think getting rid of him is the only thing that matters.
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You can look at t that way. I don't. I voted against Hillary. I was skeptical of Trump. I've been very pleasantly surprised. Life n USA has been pretty good.

I'm not in the middle of the "Hate Trump echo chamber"

It seems a very unhappy place.

I'm encouraged my Democrat fellow Americans said "Hell NO! " to the radical communist.

A lot of he folks who support the Dem ticket are still supporting Camelot and JFK.

That Dem party no longer exists. I think at least some of them are sick of what Pelosi,Schumer,Schiff,etc have been serving.

Some of the Trump haters focus on his indiscetions with Women. The OUTRAGE!!! Well,its not too good. I'll admit.

But then we really have to apply the same standards to Camelot,don't we? JFK? Teddy? How about LBJ? Bill Clinton?

Russia,Russia,Russia….now,who sold about 20% of our Uranium to Russia?

I could go on,of course. No point.

I'd worry as much about Bidens finger on the nuke button as the 2A

What I believe is Biden and Beto are moot points. I'm supporting the President. Four more years. Biden would be a safe choice for the swamp. He would e easily handled. Bernie he radical would not be comfortable for the DC swamp. Anyway,IMO,I'm glad he's pretty much out.

Now I'm going to enjoy some coffee and a beautiful day
 
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Joe Biden has a 12 gauge. His son has a 20 gauge.
Indicates two things seen in the Civilized Countries of the Old World:
The wealthy and influential have no trouble getting guns.
Shotguns are the last and least restricted firearms. Maybe because the smoothbore was obsolete for general military application about 1853.
 
A lot of folks vote based on emotion and not facts or philosophies. I suspect some people who voted for Regan voted for Clinton, then voted for Bush, then voted for Obama. So, they aren't really developing some consistent world view and then find a candidate who most matches that view. Trump wasn't my first choice and is sort of a buffoon, but he's done a decent job. However, I fear many would prefer to vote for a inept hipster approved candidate than a good executive who happens to be a jerk.
 
Beto is no worse than Biden himself. Biden wants to ban all "AR-14's" because "no one needs 100 bullets or a machine gun". Heck he got in a yelling fight about this with some pro-2nd Amendment union workers.
 
I don't know that Biden has the mental capacity to form an agenda beyond getting elected. The guy seriously is just senile.

Beto is dangerous. But I'm not convinced Biden/party wants that VP - to us gun rights are a #1 issue, is like a #4 for most Democrat voters, running on that alone is a recipe for failure.

Bernie I was hoping would win the nomination, but ain't happening. Not because I like him but because he's softer on gun control, ie has an actual stand of his own that's not off the charts compared to others, is basically un-ellectable due to the communism, and even if he was elected I think everyone would fight him so nothing would actually get done :) - nearly the perfect plan B.
 
November is a long way off. I wouldn’t worry as much now, as there is a lot of time for Uncle Joe to open his mouth many more times....
 
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Who will that make a difference to. Not anyone with an open mind! Heard of any of them lately?
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It will make a difference to the 5% in the middle / on the fence, that often decide the election.
This isn’t “2 sides” only. It’s one of 1000 positions between 2 extremes.
 
Who will that make a difference to. Not anyone with an open mind! Heard of any of them lately?
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People who wouldn't otherwise bother to vote because they think the result isn't consequential.

That's the other edge of the sword that is DJT's style too.
 
The thought that has been bouncing around in my mind lately is should it happen and Biden actually wins in November is who is his VP? Frankly, Biden seems to be slipping mentally (Alzheimer's?) and I would not be all that surprised that a month or two after the inauguration he states that he is resigning from the presidency for reasons of health. If the dems hold the House, the wouldn't Pelosi be in line as the replacement VP? :eek: What a revolting development that would be.
Paul B.
 
Paul B. said:
Frankly, Biden seems to be slipping mentally (Alzheimer's?) and I would not be all that surprised that a month or two after the inauguration he states that he is resigning from the presidency for reasons of health. If the dems hold the House, the wouldn't Pelosi be in line as the replacement VP?
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No. It's covered in the 25th Amendment to the Constitution:

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am25.html

Amendment 25 - Presidential Disability and Succession

1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
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This is how Ford became President. Nixon's VP, Spiro T. Agnew, resigned from office and Nixon named Ford as the replacement. Then Nixon resigned, so Ford became President. Ford was not the Speaker of the House at the time, he was the House minority leader.

When Ford became President, he named Nelson Rockefeller as his VP. Rockefeller also was not the Speaker of the House. If Biden were to be elected and then bow out, the replacement President could nominate Pelosi as the new VP, but it wouldn't be automatic.
 
Schumer has had a red flag applied to him by Gun Owners of America..

The factory worker should have went w/ Biden "outside" but hed probably ended up in jail--not sleepy.

Just remember there are 6 full months till election day. More gaffes and many more will realize Joes cheese fell off his cracker long time ago.

He has had 40 good years at the public trough. Time for someone else.
 
The "virus crisis" seems to be pushing gun control onto the back burner, for now. Keep an eye on what they do, and don't do about their gun control policies when they don't make big public announcements.

Still a long way to November, and really, nothing they say or do matters until then.
 
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