Best Western Movie shootout?
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the Black Spot
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Indy 1919, winchester '73 was a great movie.
There is another good but short gun fight scene with Glenn Ford in a made for tv movie called the Sacketts. Ford is supposedly the actor who has the fastest draw of all hollywood actors (even beat out James Arness and Eastwood). If you watch the shootout in "Sacketts" you will see why.
There is another good but short gun fight scene with Glenn Ford in a made for tv movie called the Sacketts. Ford is supposedly the actor who has the fastest draw of all hollywood actors (even beat out James Arness and Eastwood). If you watch the shootout in "Sacketts" you will see why.
OutlawJoseyWales
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Great stuff guys,
It was a sad day (for lack of a better term) when I found out that there was NO fast draw in the real west. That it was ALL a illusion of Hollywood, although a wonderful one for all us kids. That the wonderful start of Gunsmoke never happened nor would have happened in the real West.
(the original one, not the late "hippie-ized" one where Marshall Dillon is simply riding the horse)
No hijack meant, but TV westerns were much more my thing as a kid, than movies. Maybe we can start taking about those now.
It was a sad day (for lack of a better term) when I found out that there was NO fast draw in the real west. That it was ALL a illusion of Hollywood, although a wonderful one for all us kids. That the wonderful start of Gunsmoke never happened nor would have happened in the real West.
(the original one, not the late "hippie-ized" one where Marshall Dillon is simply riding the horse)
No hijack meant, but TV westerns were much more my thing as a kid, than movies. Maybe we can start taking about those now.
There were so many movies and so many TV shows that it's really hard to pick one that standout above the others, even the shootouts. Still, there are memorable moments for a lot of them. Someone mentioned Glen Ford. There was some western he was in where the bad guy was trying to get his land or something. That plot accounted for half of all westerns anyway, I think. He had a faceoff with the bad guy and said something like, "you won't like the way I fight." He let the bad guy's gang burn down his ranch house, then ambushed them on their way back to town. But I don't remember the name of the movie, which I shall dutifully look up.
Again I don't remember the name of the movie but it's the one with John Wayne, Ricky Nelson, Walter Brennan and Dean Martin. There are a couple of good shootouts in that one. Maybe not very realistic but that's not what we're looking for in the movies. I get all the realism I can handle in my real life.
Again I don't remember the name of the movie but it's the one with John Wayne, Ricky Nelson, Walter Brennan and Dean Martin. There are a couple of good shootouts in that one. Maybe not very realistic but that's not what we're looking for in the movies. I get all the realism I can handle in my real life.
the Black Spot
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Blue train, that john wayne with nelson is called "rio bravo"
There were a couple of funny scenes in one of the early John Wayne movies I watched. First he draws his gun and as he brings it up it, he fires it prematurely at about a 45 degree angle into the ground. They switch the view to show a guy with his gun out up on a rooftop drop dead.
Then, whenever one of the good guys starts to talk about standing up against the bad guys in town, suddenly they will be mysteriously shot dead. No one knows where the shot came from. In the middle of the street there is a stump. There's no shrubbery growing off of it or anything, a bare stump. You can plainly see a hole in it (gun port) and the top is cut all the way around making a hinged lid. No one has noticed this, but JW figures it out and the next time he pulls open the lid and yanks the shooter out by his collar.
I do like the shootout in Open Range, the smoke and sound make it a lot more realistic looking and sounding then most shootouts. Also the music they play in the Clint Eastwood Unforgiven when he goes into the bar and takes care of business really sounds ominous. Mark
Then, whenever one of the good guys starts to talk about standing up against the bad guys in town, suddenly they will be mysteriously shot dead. No one knows where the shot came from. In the middle of the street there is a stump. There's no shrubbery growing off of it or anything, a bare stump. You can plainly see a hole in it (gun port) and the top is cut all the way around making a hinged lid. No one has noticed this, but JW figures it out and the next time he pulls open the lid and yanks the shooter out by his collar.
I do like the shootout in Open Range, the smoke and sound make it a lot more realistic looking and sounding then most shootouts. Also the music they play in the Clint Eastwood Unforgiven when he goes into the bar and takes care of business really sounds ominous. Mark
Per OutlawJoseyWales disappointment with Hollywood over the lack of real fast drawing in the real west.. Another hollywoodland misrepresentation from real live is the expert marksmanship in the movies, When you read about the old bar fights lots of times guns were emptied and no one was hit. Or like in the case of Wild Bill Hickock, Jessie James, Virgil & Morgan Earp they were just Ambushed from behind
There was serious interest in the Old West lawmen and gunfighters up through WWII. Some writers went into some detail about some of them and I believe Rex Applegate even visited their graves. Of course that was before the new wave of gunfighters and shooting school master. So they tried to learn as much as they could about how the old-timers did it (when they were young) since it appeared they knew what they were doing.
The so-called adult westerns of the 1950s and early 1960s helped to maintain that interest, although that interest took on a different form with various kinds of handgun competitions. That's where Jeff Cooper came in, you know. Other writers also made frequent reference to the fast draw hip shooting arts and some of them had killed men, so they were serious about what they were writing about, not just games with guns. They tended not to make references to the movies, however.
The so-called adult westerns of the 1950s and early 1960s helped to maintain that interest, although that interest took on a different form with various kinds of handgun competitions. That's where Jeff Cooper came in, you know. Other writers also made frequent reference to the fast draw hip shooting arts and some of them had killed men, so they were serious about what they were writing about, not just games with guns. They tended not to make references to the movies, however.
There are so many, but the Sacketts is one of my favorites. The best part doesn't even have any gunplay. When Tell and Cap are eating supper at Rosie's, and that other idiot is trying to pick a fight. "Do that, and you're gonna force me to take hold of that pistol. Then I'll have to kill ye, and killin' don't set well with a man's supper."
Crossfire Trail is another good one. Makes me want an 1876 Winchester in .45-60.
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Crossfire Trail is another good one. Makes me want an 1876 Winchester in .45-60.
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Well it is a "western" movie, just took place in a different west, and the most memorable part of the movie:
As Marston lays dying, referring to an early conversation concerning Colt revolvers, Quigley tells him, "I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."
As Marston lays dying, referring to an early conversation concerning Colt revolvers, Quigley tells him, "I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."
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Opening scene in Waterhole #3
James Coburn walks over behind his horse, takes a rifle out of the scabbard, and shoots the other guy over the back of the horse.
James Coburn walks over behind his horse, takes a rifle out of the scabbard, and shoots the other guy over the back of the horse.
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Bluetrain, No Need to put Mr in front of Indy1919.. Indy1919 is my 1st name... 
Per you thought of Poor Marksmanship in bar fights, I just remembered a gun fight a few years ago between 4 gang bangers in a crowded bar.. Each armed with a semi auto pistol.. 14+ round mags and no one (Thank God and poor fire discipline) Was even scratched.. So it does still happen in real life..
Per you thought of Poor Marksmanship in bar fights, I just remembered a gun fight a few years ago between 4 gang bangers in a crowded bar.. Each armed with a semi auto pistol.. 14+ round mags and no one (Thank God and poor fire discipline) Was even scratched.. So it does still happen in real life..
I was thinking of the police shooting in New York, of course. As regards the Mr., I think a little formality might help with the civility around here. After all, even though an armed society is a polite society, one has to try to be more polite than the other guy. Right? Besides, I'm not really on a first name basis here.
"BlueTrain" is my middle name. The first name is "The" and the last name is "Rover." You ought to look it up.
"BlueTrain" is my middle name. The first name is "The" and the last name is "Rover." You ought to look it up.