Best tactical shotgun??

rossi - circuit judge

I gotta say - the gun for me is a rossi circuit judge with a .410 load - It's a revolver - No jams under stress - Pop in a few Winchester PDX-1 hd rounds and you won't be shooting through any walls - Gotta make sure you don't hit the kids. The gun shoots very straight - and it has nice vision off the sights. The wife won't have any problem handling the gun if she gets to it first. My 2c

Oh, it also takes a 45 long colt - Talk about a fun round to shoot
 
Kel Tec have just come out at shot show 2012with a tacticool (sorry Tactical) shotgun for home defense - looks like somthing out of Terminator!
 
I would have no problem with pump guns like the 870, 1300, and 590. No experiance with the Nova. I could also put up with a Browning or 37 Ithica as last choices due to bottom ejection
I am a big fan of a pumpgun for home defense, especially if others of the family may need to use it. Same reasoning I use when recommending a revolver. It is simple to operate, and not prone to malfunctions.
I have had one semiautomatic a Beretta 1201FP. No issues with it either as long as you train with it.

My home defense shotgun is my old Scattergun Technologies TR870 Nashville Tenn. Pre Wilson Combat. It was built on a Wingmaster instead of a Police. It has the Speed Feed Stock set, Side Saddle, Scattergun Tech Track Loc sights, and originally had an Orange Hi Vis Follower, which I have since changed out for a Higher Visibility Green one. It has a Big Head Safety, sling point between the magazine tube, and tube extension, and also the clamp between the barrel and magazine tube extension. Not sure 20 years later what all Scattergun Tech might have done internally to it.
I carryed the TR870 for 15 years as a Deputy Sheriff, and 2 years as Police Chief. I have had Zero Malfunctions with it.
The wife and I also shoot Trap some. Again we have 870TB trap guns. I do not recall any malfunctions with either of them. If we ever did have a Trap Gun issue I am sure it was a relaoded shell issue, and not the gun. All 3 of our 870's are pre 1980 Wingmasters.
The local PD has older Model 870 Police shotguns. They were getting a little beat up looking, and were getting ready to upgrade to something newer. I suggested they have them refurbished with new Speed Feed Stock sets, and have our local gunsmith parkerize them. That was probably 10 years ago, and they are still happy with them. I have never seen one of them fail to function in training/qualification either.

Bob
 
I modified a Mossberg 500 with a 20" barrrel with a 7+1 tube and a red dot. The stock is the Knoxx system. It handles great and has great balance. The 500 is easy to modify with different length barrels.

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How does a lightweight stock balance well with a barrel that has a 7 round magazine under it?
That just does not compute from a "balance" standpoint
 
I believe the red dot adds weight behind the mag tube. I was surprised as well. I guess the term should have been balanced better than you'd expect.
 
I like my mossy 590 for HD. I have the ATI 6 pos stock with scorpion butt pad and grip. i also replaced the standard pump with the mako tri-rail pump so i can add a streamlight and thinking of adding a foreend grip. i also have a tactstar side saddle and the stock mossy heat shield (hey it looks cool ok lol). be careful with adding too much to your shotty. although it makes it look cool, it does make it heavier as i am learning;) if i could ever figure out how to post a pic i will. oh and best believe that bad boy is loaded up with hornady critical defense 00buck:)
 
1 oz, it's not quite so cut and dried.

My HD 870 has the two shot extension, Side Saddle, and so on. It weighs over 9 lbs. But, when I had a Spanish trap O/U with 30" barrels,I noted they both handled the same. Stocks were similar, so that helped. A lot of the weight lies between the hands on the 870, and with the 18" barrel the front end lies closer so the leverage effect is not as crucial.

My Deer 870 has 1.5" more barrel, another extension with three round plus capacity and does move a little ponderously. A roll of nickles in the butt would fix that.

Still, Frankenstein(My parts 870 with 21" barrel and zero addons) is about 7 lbs and snake fast. This my be my best choice.....
 
I understand Dave - but looking at that pic - with all the steel (and lead inside) up front and only a plastic stock on the rear, the balance between the hands factor has to be non-existent, meaning moving and swinging the gun on target requires a great deal of effort for the off-hand
 
Yup,that could be the case. I use wood, as The Diety intended us to do.

Bruce Buck calls it "The Pig On a Snow Shovel Effect".

Good ol' Bruce....
 
I did some research and the Knoxx stock/pistol grip weighs more than the stock stock. With the mag tube loaded and 0 in the chamber, the balance level is right where the mag tube meets the receiver. If you'd like a picture showing that I'll gladly provide one. That seems like a good balance to me. Where should the mid point be?
 
For that stock to equal both the barrel weight, mag weight and 7 rounds, that would make the gun weighing about 12 pounds or so.....guess I am missing something there, LarryH
 
This is how I roll. 590A1 with NOS wood furniture from Havlins.



Shoots/points great with the cut-down stock & thick Limbsaver pad. Simple & classy, to me. Everything it needs to be & nothing that it doesn't.
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I have to say, that is a great looking and functioning setup you have there. Modern sights combined with old-school class.
 
My Mossberg 500 is about as tacticool as it gets for me....

I've tried just about every "tactical" style stock for it trying to make it the perfect HD shotgun but finally came back around to just shortening the factory wood stock a little to fit me better. I should have just gone this from the beginning, would have saved myself lots of cash and headaches. :rolleyes:

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For that stock to equal both the barrel weight, mag weight and 7 rounds, that would make the gun weighing about 12 pounds or so.....guess I am missing something there, LarryH
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I don't understand your math. The Mossberg in stock size goes ~7#. The shorter barrel and longer mag tube and useless heat shield should even out though the barrel weighs more per inch. Add the weight of the red dot (approx 4oz per mfg specs) and the difference in the stock weight (<16oz) as well as the rounds in the tube and you get 5# more? Every shotgun has added weight from the ammo.

I don't get your point. I'm sorry but what are you trying to say? If you don't like my setup, that's cool. I happen to like it and it has a good feel to me, which is what counts.
 
For home defense I just use a Stoegor Condor 12 gauge with an elastic shell holder filled with 000. In my mind, I guess the ultimate home defense shotgun would be a Saiga 12.
 
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