Best SAA on the market

I just visited USFA's website. Man you would expect just making the SA model and only in 2 barrel lengths that they would be putting fire arms out there. Must be their down to 2 or 3 people now. I hope they hang in there they make a nice gun for those who buy them. Maybe Obama can help them out like he helped out his banking buddies.
 
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" Whats the deal with USFA? Did I miss something. Are they going out of business?"

Seemingly so, judging from internet scuttlebutt (in forums like this including more specialty forums, with some posters with reportedly "direct" or close second-hand connections) as well as USFA's increasingly sparse catalog of products on their website. That and no denials from USFA itself or even attributed to anonymous staffers. Strictly from a business point of view, one would think that there'd be some statement to quell the rumor mill if 'tweren't true..
Again, very sad if true. Top quality and made in America.
 
According to the SASS Forum (USFA Section) Gary Granger is no longer associated with USFA. His loss will be felt. He was the Customer Service guy and was very helpful in my dealings with him. Looks like they are down to producing what they produced best, 4 3/4" and 5 1/2" SAA's. They are still taking orders on those guns.
 
What is Cimarron's SAA called? I'm not enjoying their site at all... just pull down menus where you keep guessing what something might be based on the name. :confused:

Incidentally, any comments on the Cimarron Schofield?
 
Mastiff37,
I think most of the clones are a bit guilty of that. In a sense, Cimarron's closest SAA equivalent actually is aptly named, it's just that some folks don't make the connection/recognize. It's the "Model P"--per Colt's original Model P moniker--which has a few variants of finish/trim. Once there on the website, you can see other models, when viewed are basically the same gun, just may have some special feature like factory tune job, or super short barrel, birdshead grip (which was never a Colt factory offering in their SAA line (DA yes - 1877 and 1878 models).
the "Model P Jr" is just that - a 3/4 (or whatever) scale "P" for smaller calibers or, in the case of .38, less powerful and shorter cartridges.

I think they all try to stay away from the most often used
name used by Colt of "SAA" or "Single Action Army" since they are not, in fact, SAA's but clones, ...especially while Colt is still building them (and may still be proprietary?)...But yes, it can be confusing. Especially Uberti itself (their own website/offerings, with close to a dozen--it seems--different monikers for essentially the same gun (but different finishes, etc). Believe it or not, Cimarron is one of the least-worst offenders!
 
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Bob Wriight said:
" I beg your pardon, but mine is a Cimarron Model P."

...As is mine. All clones, by definition, are patterned after the Colt Single Action Army, aka Model P - only Cimarron among them calls it that. Look it up - their site lists a number of variants of "Model P's."
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/ModelP/MP668-ModelPStdFin.htm
When EMF marketed Ubertis, theirs was called the Hartford. Their current Piettas are called "Great Western IIs." Taylors has a whole line up of Uberti SAA clones with their own names, Uberti (itself) even more.
 
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I went to the local gunshow yesterday, and a guy had several actual Colt SAAs. One was probably 85% from the mid 1880s. The nickel was still very nice. I've seen many 20 year guns in far worse shape. I was tempted, except for the $30,000 price tag :eek:
 
Uberti has never made Colt SAA parts. Uberti has however made parts for the Colt release of the modern black powder cap and ball revolvers which were finished and assembled in the U.S.A..
 
And Ubertis makes the Colt parts...
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You are a liar.

Back in the 1970s Colt did a short run of open-top cap'n'ball reproductions made with Italian (likely Uberti?) parts. And there is some speculation that the Colt Cowboy (a transfer-bar equipped SAA near-clone under the Colt brand at Ruger prices) had Italian bits in it to some degree, esp. given the horrendous quality control problems with the early specimens. But both those product lines are long since dead, by decades.

Colt does not in the current tense ("makes") use any Italian source parts.
 
Sorry guys, anything that is not a Colt is a copy. It doesn't matter if the MFG calls it a Model P or SAA, it ain't.
 
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