Best polymer gun...?
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Marko Kloos
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H&K Mk 23? Uh....
As much as I love H&K pistols, the SOCOM was less than a hit even in the SpecOps community it was tailored towards. The civilian version shares all the drawbacks of the SOCOM while having none of its benefits. The Mk23 is heavy and very large. It is accurate and sturdy, but it only has a very limited application range. If you're a combat frog (SEAL/UDT etc.) the suppressor built for it in combination with the slide cycle lock would come in handy, but the suppressor is not available to civilians anyway. The SEALs and other SpecOps folks figured out quickly that the gun was intended for work more suitable for a suppressed SMG, and its size is a direct result of that. They went back to their SIGs and M9s, and as far as I know the SOCOM is not much in use these days. It's half the weight of an MP5SD, and almost as long when you attach the suppressor.
The Mk23 version for civvies has little practical use, and very limited appeal to non-collectors, due to its unsuitability for CCW and its staggering price tag. A USP Expert would do the same job in a lighter and less expensive package.
If I was back in the service and preparing for a night exercise/operation, I'd grab an MP5SD and a USP off the gun rack before I let them hand me a SOCOM brick.
Ok, off my soap box, and back to other polymer guns...Glocks are probably the best combination of durability, ease of use and reliability out there. H&K USP is very nice as well, but a tad hefty in the full-frame size. The Compact would fit the bill better and is highly modular as far as triggers and decockers/safeties go.
I picked up a SIG Pro SP2340 in .357 SIG two weeks ago, and it is a sweet shooter, maybe even more durable in construction than the Glocks, and inexpensive to boot. I'd give that one a shot, since it can be reconfigured for lefty use, and it has a nice wide slide release that can be operated well even with the non-dominant hand.
As much as I love H&K pistols, the SOCOM was less than a hit even in the SpecOps community it was tailored towards. The civilian version shares all the drawbacks of the SOCOM while having none of its benefits. The Mk23 is heavy and very large. It is accurate and sturdy, but it only has a very limited application range. If you're a combat frog (SEAL/UDT etc.) the suppressor built for it in combination with the slide cycle lock would come in handy, but the suppressor is not available to civilians anyway. The SEALs and other SpecOps folks figured out quickly that the gun was intended for work more suitable for a suppressed SMG, and its size is a direct result of that. They went back to their SIGs and M9s, and as far as I know the SOCOM is not much in use these days. It's half the weight of an MP5SD, and almost as long when you attach the suppressor.
The Mk23 version for civvies has little practical use, and very limited appeal to non-collectors, due to its unsuitability for CCW and its staggering price tag. A USP Expert would do the same job in a lighter and less expensive package.
If I was back in the service and preparing for a night exercise/operation, I'd grab an MP5SD and a USP off the gun rack before I let them hand me a SOCOM brick.
Ok, off my soap box, and back to other polymer guns...Glocks are probably the best combination of durability, ease of use and reliability out there. H&K USP is very nice as well, but a tad hefty in the full-frame size. The Compact would fit the bill better and is highly modular as far as triggers and decockers/safeties go.
I picked up a SIG Pro SP2340 in .357 SIG two weeks ago, and it is a sweet shooter, maybe even more durable in construction than the Glocks, and inexpensive to boot. I'd give that one a shot, since it can be reconfigured for lefty use, and it has a nice wide slide release that can be operated well even with the non-dominant hand.
Glocks and HK's are great choices for lefties, I'm a lefty!! The HK is more left hand friendly IMHO, I shot a Glock 22 the other day, and the mag release ripped a hole in the second section of my middle finger, drew quite a bit of blood. The HK was much more accurate, less felt recoil, and MUCH better trigger. I just thought it was way too bulky...
But if you get a glock, which is not a bad choice, file that mag release down!
Albert
But if you get a glock, which is not a bad choice, file that mag release down!
Albert
Bennett Richards
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H&K...
They pioneered tupperweapons and the SEALs consider the H&K the only weapons they have trouble destroying...
Ben
They pioneered tupperweapons and the SEALs consider the H&K the only weapons they have trouble destroying...
Ben
SteveSatch
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What's the gun for? What features do you want? When I bought I wanted DA/SA with decocker only in a large gun cause that's what fits my hand best. I also like guns that are low priced and have low priced mags. That's why I have Ruger P95 ($300 9MM with $30 high cap mags) and P97 ($350 .45). The best deals out there. You can't get a more rugged or reliable gun. However, you may require an external safety or maybe you want a very small gun or can't stand a long trigger pull. Think about what features you want/must have and don't want/can't stand and it will narrow down the choices significantly. Once I did the choice was obvious.
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thequickad
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The only proven Plastic gun is the Glock. Everything else is just Glock want-to-be. 
shooter.45
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The SigPro 2340 great gun!!!
GLOCK.
They are the only gun manufacturer that has consistently gotten it right. With polymer guns, the balance is generally off because the gun is top heavy due tot he slide.
The Kahr P9 sucks. Sig never got it right with the SigPro series. EEA Witnesses are okay.
Ruger is fine but blocky and not known for their accuracy. SW Sigmas suck. The SW99 is a Walther badged SW - decent but ammo sensitive. HK USPs are okay.
But Glock designed its guns on a polymer frame. 80% of the law enforcement market and several enthusiast pages. GSSF. Why look any further.
I've had, traded, and shot most of them and other than the Glock 19, 26, 17, 34, the only other 9mm I love to shoot or carry is the HKP7 and that's not polymer!
GLOCK!
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The Seattle SharpShooter
They are the only gun manufacturer that has consistently gotten it right. With polymer guns, the balance is generally off because the gun is top heavy due tot he slide.
The Kahr P9 sucks. Sig never got it right with the SigPro series. EEA Witnesses are okay.
Ruger is fine but blocky and not known for their accuracy. SW Sigmas suck. The SW99 is a Walther badged SW - decent but ammo sensitive. HK USPs are okay.
But Glock designed its guns on a polymer frame. 80% of the law enforcement market and several enthusiast pages. GSSF. Why look any further.
I've had, traded, and shot most of them and other than the Glock 19, 26, 17, 34, the only other 9mm I love to shoot or carry is the HKP7 and that's not polymer!
GLOCK!
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The Seattle SharpShooter
SteveSatch
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<Ruger is fine but blocky and not known for their accuracy.>
The P95 and P97 are vast improvments in the "blockiness" of Rugers. I'd say Rugers are just as accurate as Glocks. Neither are target weapons. If you don't want a double action trigger, buy the Glock. If you're not comfortable with the Glock trigger buy the Ruger. The Ruger should run you about $175 less and high caps are half the cost of Glocks.
The P95 and P97 are vast improvments in the "blockiness" of Rugers. I'd say Rugers are just as accurate as Glocks. Neither are target weapons. If you don't want a double action trigger, buy the Glock. If you're not comfortable with the Glock trigger buy the Ruger. The Ruger should run you about $175 less and high caps are half the cost of Glocks.