DA/SA the P-220 without any doubt! If the DA 1st shot ias of bother.....get a action job from Novak's, did same, now don't even notice it during "combat" style shooting matches. Carry a G21 & use it for IDPA, just a wonderful pistol, nice soft recoil, very accurate. The grip is large but know a good few local shooters with "normal" size hands that have & like the 21. More seem to like the 2nd. Generation grip.
Best (non- 1911) .45cal pistol?
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Had Hk Tactical...sold it. Owned 3 Glock 21s to date and carry a 30. Simply the MOST SIMPLE gun there is in .45! It is also the fastest. And the most reliable by my experience. Never a jam in an IPSC match or otherwise. You can all have your exposed hammers, dbl action, decockers...when I put my finger on the trigger I want it to go bang and now! No one here has mentioned ergonomics, the Glock has the lowest bore axis. Much better than Sig, Hk (except P7), Ruger, etc. The Glock will do everything the others do but faster. Have you ever had a critical plan fall to pieces? Patton once said "The best plan is one in which you win even if everything goes wrong." That means Glock to me.
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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats." H.L. Mencken
True , racegunner, the Glock does have the lowest bore axis, but for me, I just don't like the grip angle. Plus I also feel the grip is "fat" on the G21. But like I said , that is me. You are just better off, if you can go out and try the different pistols mentioned to see which you like best.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rob96:
Parabellum, why are you hesitant to recommend any of the 9mm Glocks these days?[/quote]
He said he was hesitant to recommend any NON-9mm Glock. Probably because of the less supported chamber in the big-bore .40
and .45 Glocks, which makes them susceptible to case failures with out of spec ammo (reloads). I've owned 40, 10mm and .45ACP Glocks since '90, and had no problems. Although the .45 Super brass bulges a little too much for my taste in the stock barrel.
Parabellum, why are you hesitant to recommend any of the 9mm Glocks these days?[/quote]
He said he was hesitant to recommend any NON-9mm Glock. Probably because of the less supported chamber in the big-bore .40
and .45 Glocks, which makes them susceptible to case failures with out of spec ammo (reloads). I've owned 40, 10mm and .45ACP Glocks since '90, and had no problems. Although the .45 Super brass bulges a little too much for my taste in the stock barrel.
I owned a G22 and did keep track of the case bulging also. It seemed the more I fired the gun the more the brass bulged. I kept sample brass from every outing, and the bulging of the web area was indeed increasing. Could this have come from the gun starting to fire slightly out of battery? If for some reason I would end up with another Glock it will be the 17 or 19.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rob96:
I owned a G22 and did keep track of the case bulging also. It seemed the more I fired the gun the more the brass bulged. I kept sample brass from every outing, and the bulging of the web area was indeed increasing. Could this have come from the gun starting to fire slightly out of battery? If for some reason I would end up with another Glock it will be the 17 or 19.[/quote]
The bulging gets worse because as the barrel gets dirtier, the chamber pressure increases. This is why you should never shoot unjacketed lead bullets in a Glock (or any other polygonal rifled barrel) unless you clean it every 20 rounds or so.
I owned a G22 and did keep track of the case bulging also. It seemed the more I fired the gun the more the brass bulged. I kept sample brass from every outing, and the bulging of the web area was indeed increasing. Could this have come from the gun starting to fire slightly out of battery? If for some reason I would end up with another Glock it will be the 17 or 19.[/quote]
The bulging gets worse because as the barrel gets dirtier, the chamber pressure increases. This is why you should never shoot unjacketed lead bullets in a Glock (or any other polygonal rifled barrel) unless you clean it every 20 rounds or so.
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Gun tests just did an article on full-sized non-1911 .45s. They liked the CZ the best, and the Ruger next.
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I've had a H&K USP and a Sig P220. Both were excellent weapons. Had a Glock .40 caliber also and it was okay. But all things considered, The E.A.A. Witness I had in .45 was just as accurate, just as reliable, in many cases looked better and felt better, and all for over 250.00 less than the ones mentioned above. Most of the above weapons run 599.00-699.00 around here. I picked up a brand new Witness for 310.00 after tax not long ago. By the way, never owned a Ruger. Heard great things about them but they're so big and ugly!!!!
I've had a H&K USP and a Sig P220. Both were excellent weapons. Had a Glock .40 caliber also and it was okay. But all things considered, The E.A.A. Witness I had in .45 was just as accurate, just as reliable, in many cases looked better and felt better, and all for over 250.00 less than the ones mentioned above. Most of the above weapons run 599.00-699.00 around here. I picked up a brand new Witness for 310.00 after tax not long ago. By the way, never owned a Ruger. Heard great things about them but they're so big and ugly!!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
When it comes to non-1911 .45's, I like the Smith & Wesson 4513TSW -- it also happens to be Capt. Massad Ayoob's (an active police captain with the Grantham, NH police department) off-duty carry gun.[/quote]
Ayoob is an Honorary police captain with the Grantham, NH police department. Big difference.
When it comes to non-1911 .45's, I like the Smith & Wesson 4513TSW -- it also happens to be Capt. Massad Ayoob's (an active police captain with the Grantham, NH police department) off-duty carry gun.[/quote]
Ayoob is an Honorary police captain with the Grantham, NH police department. Big difference.
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