Best anti-personal 30-30 round out to 100yds

[BigMikey76]

I would agree that whatever round you use for hunting would be the best bet. Basically, you want to make sure you are using a round that has proven itself to be accurate in that particular weapon - you may not get a second chance to shoot if you are under fire.
As far as the concern of self-defense vs. a possible murder/attempted murder charge, if the intruder is firing on you, firing back is self defense. In fact, if you can demonstrate that you had reasonable cause to fear for your safety or the safety of a third party, it fits the definition of self-defense whether they were actively shooting or not. That being said, remember that you want to be able to DEMONSTRATE that there was reasnoable fear of harm or death, which is harder to do if they did not discharge their weapons.

 

[L_Killkenny]

In a fantasy world where anything can happen, 100 yard SD defence against sustained gunfire by a BG might be a concern. But we aren't in OZ are we.

The facts are if it did happen you are better off hitting the floor, callin the cops, use your gun to cover your doors and windows and wait till the cavalry arrives. No matter if it's 5 minutes or an hour. Trying to engage in a pot shot affair with someone 100 yards away is moronic.

LK

 

[natman]

The 100 yard SD scenario is somewhat far fetched.

That said, there is no "best" round. Any 150 grain soft point will do the job as well as another.

 

[Irish B]

No. We can't answer the question without the technical bs. It's like when someone asks which 9mm ammo is best for bear. The answer is none. If someone was opening fire on my house I would not return fire. I don't live in an action drama tv show where that's ok. The only time I would return fire is if they were entering into my house. Period. I would go to the furthest part of my house and wait for the cops to show up, even if they're 20 min out. And if you really do have people opening fire on your house with weapons and its a serious enough threat a lot of times they'll call in swat or the gaurd which can come by helicopter

 

[Willie Lowman]

with moonshiners and pot farmers if you live in areas where that is prevalent. These folks aren't always terribly observant of property lines but they tend to be both paranoid and well armed. They also make their livelihoods in the woods, so they tend to be more skilled in fieldcraft then most and likely to have the drop on you if you are just tromping around in the woods. It's certainly not inconceivable you might find yourself on the receiving end of fire at what we might otherwise consider too distant for self defense range.

This.



I live in one of these areas. I'm not all that far from the world famous Meigs County. There are some folks that live in those woods that will shoot you for getting to close to their "crops."

If you get fired upon outside and have time enough to run inside and get your rifle you could just as easily go inside and seek cover and wait for the cops.

People think it is reasonable to carry a concealed pistol while walking around in the city. Can't a man carry his rifle while checking his fence lines or hiking on his property?

But "100 yards"? That is murder, not self defense.

I hope you aren't on any defensive shooting juries.

 

[bigghoss]

I have never heard of any law that says lethal force can only be used within X number of feet. It's possible, and there are examples of, justifiable shootings at 100 yards. Now for someone attacking and opening fire on your home from 100 yards I'm not sure I see it but I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt and assume he's responsible enough to know when he can use deadly force.

I would probably go with Hornady LeveRevolution but most rounds should be still going strong that far out.

 

[Old Grump]

If you listen to all these people who think self defense only happens within arms reach of you it will get you killed but your lawyer friends will say at least you were a moral man and didn't murder anyone.

You are way over thinking the problem. If your bullet will hit what you are shooting at out to 100 yards your bullet is good enough. If you are looking for maximum damage then I suppose you might want to consider a light weight high velocity fast expanding bullet but trust me, a man with your bullet in him won't much care if it was 125 grains or 150 or 170 grains or soft point or hollow point or Leverevolution.

Let you gun tell you what to use, try different weights, different types and different brands. The practice will increase or keep sharp your shooting skills and you will have a good idea which ammo your gun shoots the best. Reliability and accuracy is what you are looking for not a magic bullet. Besides what my gun likes and what your neighbors gun likes and what your gun likes may be different. Only you and your gun can tell you what ammo to stock up on. Get some and do the trigger time.

 

[batmann]

I am not a lawyer nor am I any kind of expert on SD can and can't do's, so what I say means nothing as far as laws in your state are concerened. I will, however, give you my take on the best ammo for a .30-30. Hornady period. Leverevoltion is pretty tough to beat, how you use it is up to you.

 

[Irish B]

I have never heard of any law that says lethal force can only be used within X number of feet.

I think the laws about breaking and entering to justify lethal force make that pretty clear. Breaking and entering through your fence and onto your property line doesn't count as a home invasion.

 

[warbirdlover]

30-30 anti-personel round just doesn't sound right to me....

 

[BigMikey76]

Breaking and entering through your fence and onto your property line doesn't count as a home invasion.

You are absolutely right about that. But the OP stated:

I live in a somewhat rual community and only want this to be able to return fire if need be

In other words, the OP is not talking about running off trespassers; he is talking about potential long range self defense. Those of you who are arguing that trespassing is not enough of a reason for the OP to use lethal force are responding to a question that was not asked.

 

[BudW]

You people who think a 100 yard self defense is not realistic have never lived in the Country,go no further than the Texas ranchers dealing with dope smugglers that's one of many possibilities.

 

[HKGuns]

I've always found the 30-30 caliber to be very impersonal.

I prefer the more personalble 30-06 round for 100 yard work, just seems to get along better with others, or so I've observed in person. But that discounts any other personnel who've had different personal experience.

 

[BigMikey76]

^^ Thank you. The mood needed some lightening here

 

[Art Eatman]

Looks like this has enough answers to overload most any old horse. Enough beating on the poor critter.