beretta vs benelli

I like the way Benelli's fit but just passed on one this week. I think Benelli's marketing is outstanding

I think that you mean Beretta's marketing.

Benelli failed in the marketplace as a company on its own. Benelli, and all of its subsidiaries, were bought out and taken over by Beretta several years ago.

Benelli is now simply a division of Beretta.


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I am looking forward to shooting my friends Vinci though. I think this is a good step forward for Benelli. A bit ugly for my tastes, but I think the "inline" modular thing is a step in the right direction. The gun certainly shoulders well. If I was to buy a Benelli nowadays, I would be looking at the vinci.


The Vinci is a revolutionary shotgun. It looks so totally bizarre and ugly, however. I just don't think that I could warm up to it.

Looks like it should be real easy to clean, however, with the way that it so easily breaks apart.


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I'm with BigJimP and in the minority I suppose...I'll take the Benelli.

The Winchester is such a better gun.
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Now, that is just hilarious...everyone is entitled to their opinion, but come on...are we talking about the same Winchester that went out of business a few years ago? :D

I agree that the SBE sucks...at least I don't like it...and I think it may go by the wayside. A 3 1/2" gun doesn't have a real practical purpose for most people anyway.

There is a reason that the Benelli is expensive...because people buy it...and there must be a reason that people buy it...because they work and are easy to maintain...kind of like the Glock of shotguns. (Don't flame me for that...just sayin') :D

Buy what you want...I'll take the Benelli...oh wait, I already have two.
 
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I say get a benelli with the comfortech stock. My twelve gauge super black eagle II kicks like a little 20ga. Its been completely flawless and will always get my vote. Not to mention Gun Tests graded it an A+ which is saying alot and it got their shotgun of the year award as well.
 
hunting benelli clays beretta wear gloves and don't lick your shotgun when cleaning it and I think you will be ok my 391 will go a LOT! of shells before it needs cleaning just keep it lubed cheap 7/8 oz loads all day long without a hiccup but both are a good shotguns
 
OneOunce - I have all 3 of the optional recoil pads / and all 3 of the comb inserts ...

my 13 year old granddaughter is only about 5'7" - and shoots the recoil pad that gives her a 13 1/2" lop / where I shoot the pad that gives me 14 3/8" ( which is about 1/4" shorter than I'd like, but I manage with it ) - her Point of Impact is best using the mid height comb pad / where I shoot the higher one. But that is another thing I like about the Super Sport - you just snap the pads off and on in a couple of seconds.

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I guess I'm a little surprised at the strong opinions of some of the gas guns vs the Benelli's - but to each his own. The gas guns are cheaper...

All of my primary O/U's are Browning, I don't have anything against Browning/Winchester corp ... I think they make a number of good guns / as do Remington - and I have a Rem 1100 and an 11-87 ( I keep them for the grandkids to shoot )...but since I got the Benelli's in 12 and 20ga, I don't shoot them anymore.

About 6 months ago, I saw a used, hardly fired, Benelli Super Sport 12ga in a local shop for $ 1,525 and I snatched it up / and sold it to a friend that was very happy to have it / some of my other buddies, who have 1100's, etc - have since bought Super Sports because they have shoulder problems ... and I'm recovering from shoulder reconstruction as we speak, and while I will probably start shooting a .410 O/U , and a 28ga O/U - I expect to be shooting the Benelli Super Sport in about 6 or 8 weeks ..... using it as a transition gun, as I get back into my heavier 12 and 20ga O/U's for Skeet.
 
If you like composite black furniture, you can buy the Beretta from Wally World for under $600. Heck of a deal there for a nice Beretta.
 
BigJim - I have an 1100, have only shot a Benelli LH Montefeltro and a Beretta 391 a few times. so I have no opinion one way or the other. IMO, both are good guns - well made and reliable. The only downside that my friends who own Benellis have mentioned is having a hard time with light target loads - talking about 2-3/4 DE around 1145 fps, which happens tpo be my favorite in 12 gauge......

And I can appreciate the detractors for their views - let's face it, even K guns and P guns have detractors as do Purdeys and Fabbris.........

IF there was one magical gun that was all things to everyone............ :D
 
I understand OneOunce ..... I think its funny, when someone says the Benelli's beat them up - when I have a very lightly built 13 yr old girl, with very little upper body strengh, shooting a Benelli Super Sport 12ga and she loves it ... with 1 oz loads, at 1225 fps .... / but all of my guns have the comfort tech system in them too ...so I don't know what else to say ...

I was still shooting the Benelli - with a torn bicep tendon, my rotator cuff virtually torn thru and bone spurs in my shooting shoulder - prior to my shoulder surgery last month - when I couldn't even lift a 8 1/2 lb O/U for 4 or 5 rounds of Skeet for an afternoon without getting tears in my eyes .../ now admittedly I was eating a dozen or so advil a day too - and the shoulder hurt / but my shoulder hurt just hanging there too .... and the Benelli let me shoot and wait out the surgery date. I have no doubt, I could have shot the 1100 as well / but I couldn't even handle a 28ga O/U either ....but my word, I hate cleaning those gas guns ...

All 3 of my Benelli's cycle loads - as long as they are 1200 fps. They will not cycle the load you prefer at 1150 fps / so that is a downside... where my buddy's 1100 cylces his 1150 fps loads just fine.
 
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I like the way Benelli's fit but just passed on one this week. I think Benelli's marketing is outstanding

I think that you mean Beretta's marketing.

Benelli failed in the marketplace as a company on its own. Benelli, and all of its subsidiaries, were bought out and taken over by Beretta several years ago.

Benelli is now simply a division of Beretta.

What I meant was....Benelli has made a lot of people buy their guns with marketing. Fastest cycling? I have yet to wait for ANY semi auto shotgun to cycle before I can shoot again. Comfortech stock reduces recoil by 50%? Softest recoiling semi auto? B.S.! Easiest to clean? Maybe. There's not many parts to wipe down on a 11-87 though. And not many more moving parts than a benelli either. (Beretta's are a PITA cause of the 7 piece forend cap). Criobarrel? Not convinced on that either.

Like I said before, they're great guns but not worth the $1200-$1800 most of them run. They're still primarily blow molded plastic stocked, camoed shotguns that should cost $900-$1300 IMO.

Their marketing has them selling plastic camo for hand fitted over-under prices and I think that's B.S.
 
both IMO are top notch guns.......to me guns are tools and good tools are worth the money you pay for them. The 2 guns are built on differn't platforms as many has pointed out so chooseing gas or inertia should be a desiding factor only second to fit. the guns handle very differn't. i have 2 benelli's that was mainly choose becuase of the smaller frame from shooting in a ground blind my SBE II was slightly smaller than the extrema, but from an upright shooting position to me it's a coin toss
 
We'll have to agree to disagree Horseman .....

a. but the Super Sport is a carbon fibre stock ( not exactly cheap blow molded plastic ..)

b. I think there might be something to the crio barrels - but its hard to really tell. I do know all 3 of my Super Sport models - shoot very uniform patterns with my reloads.

c. 50% less recoil / I don't think Benelli makes that claim in the marketing stuff ... but like all marketing depts they're going to put their spin on their perspective.... / Remember the Benelli is very light ( the 12ga with 30" barrels is only 7.2 lbs ) and a lighter gun means more recoil - so in my view, they've done something right. With it being a lighter gun / it certainly makes it easier to carry in the field all day too / which is not a bad thing.

Cost is relative - but I consider a $ 1,800 shotgun relatively inexpensive / and price aside, if I thought the Beretta or any gas gun was a better gun, I'd buy 2 or 3 of them ...even if they were more expensive than the Benelli.

I bought the Benelli Super Sports because I think they're a better gun - so I spend what I need to spend to buy what I consider the better gun ( I think I paid $ 1,450 for my first one about 4 years ago, $ 1,525 for a used 12ga and about $ 1,750 for the 20ga a year or so ago. I see new ones on the shelf for around $ 1,850 which I still think is a good price. Like I said, I have a couple of older Remingtons - an 1100 and an 11-87 / and they aren't bad guns / but I'm not going to buy any more of them.

But we should all share our opinions - and ultimately buy whatever we want.
 
MKTexas, this is a good thread, I am debating between the same guns. I have held both of them and the Benelli fits me better and you can change the LOP more on it than the Beretta. I don't think the reciol will bother me because I shoot an old Browning A5 now and it has a hard butt pad.

I am considering getting the Beretta too because it will shoot the 7/8 loads and I want do shoot some sporting clays as well as hunt deer with the same shotgun. The 391 just drags on my shoulder when I raise it naturally, but I could have it fitted or just train myself to extend my arms further when shouldering it I guess. Does anyone know what the length of pull is on the Urika 391?
 
Big Jim P.

THe Super Sport is the exception to the rule. They look expensive. I like the carbon fiber and brushed silver receiver. My opinion is based on the 20 gauge M2 I almost bought. When you pull it out of the box it just doesn't look like a $1300 shotgun IMO. Look at all the craftsmanship that goes into producing a $1300-$1400 Browning or Beretta Over Under. Hand fitted parts, high polish, hand cut checkering, well figured walnut, etc. etc. A blow molded camo M2 should not cost the same as a well made O/U IMO.

I think mose Benelli models are excellent guns but overpriced.
 
I understand Horseman ..... its been a good debate - and we've both shared our perspective.

Have a good weekend .
 
Cost is relative - but I consider a $ 1,800 shotgun relatively inexpensive / and price aside, if I thought the Beretta or any gas gun was a better gun, I'd buy 2 or 3 of them ...even if they were more expensive than the Benelli.

BigJim - for the price of 3 of those, you could get yourself a really nice Spanish SxS..........and have an AWESOME bird gun!..... ;)
 
M2 vs 391

Ok, I hear a lot about the gas guns being less money, but both of these are around $1,200.00 new.

I've sen a few used Urika 2s for $800, no used M2s
 
M2 vs 391

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My local shop has a benelli M2, black composite but not comfortec stock for $850.00 new. Is that a good price for one? I don't keep up on these.

You should be able to find a Urika 2 for less than $1200.00, that sound like a price that would be on an Extrema 2, which is a great gun.
 
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