Beretta 92 vs Ruger P89
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Another wild card...Taurus PT92. A cousin to the Beretta 92, but with a frame-mounted ambi hammer-drop safety, permitting Condition 1, or if you like, hammer down with safety.
Taurus gets a lot of flak, but the PT92, being a direct variant of the Beretta, is the best of the lot.
Taurus gets a lot of flak, but the PT92, being a direct variant of the Beretta, is the best of the lot.
If you're interested in a .40cal variant of the 5906, then I strongly suggest putting the Beretta 92 and Ruger P89 aside temporarily in favor of a S&W 4006TSW CHP.
I just bought one last week from CDNN Sports for $399, picked it up a few days ago, and it's an insane value. That said, there are only about 10,000 of them ever made, being a special order by the California Highway Patrol, and they've shown up in batches on the civilian market since 2017, with the word being that this will be the last of them since the CHP has finally finished replacing the 4006TSW with M&P40s.
Last I checked CDNN was sold out, but they're still available on Summit Gunbroker for $385.
I just bought one last week from CDNN Sports for $399, picked it up a few days ago, and it's an insane value. That said, there are only about 10,000 of them ever made, being a special order by the California Highway Patrol, and they've shown up in batches on the civilian market since 2017, with the word being that this will be the last of them since the CHP has finally finished replacing the 4006TSW with M&P40s.
Last I checked CDNN was sold out, but they're still available on Summit Gunbroker for $385.
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TruthTellers
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I forgot to mention that I shoot a lot of steel 9mm. How do the 92's run with steel?
For parts support, aftermarket parts availability, accessories availability, the Beretta is going to come out on top. Trigger quality, accuracy and fit/finish favor the Beretta too.
The Beretta is also a more refined design. I have owned a few P89s (still own one) and own a few P95s. They are good, solid guns, and good shooters--I have no problem relying on them for self-defense, but the Beretta is nicer, although a lot more expensive.
Things might be a bit different back before Ruger decided that supporting its discontinued designs wasn't a priority and sold off a lot of its spare parts stock on the wholesale market. At least then there was no concern about being able to get replacements in the unlikely event something broke or wore out. But now, for example, I can't even get replacement recoil spring assemblies for my P95s any more.
The Beretta is also a more refined design. I have owned a few P89s (still own one) and own a few P95s. They are good, solid guns, and good shooters--I have no problem relying on them for self-defense, but the Beretta is nicer, although a lot more expensive.
Things might be a bit different back before Ruger decided that supporting its discontinued designs wasn't a priority and sold off a lot of its spare parts stock on the wholesale market. At least then there was no concern about being able to get replacements in the unlikely event something broke or wore out. But now, for example, I can't even get replacement recoil spring assemblies for my P95s any more.
I was also looking at 9mm range guns recently.
I just took possession last week of a Beretta 92G Elite and it is one sweet shooter!
Yesterday afternoon I installed the Trigger Job in a Bag from Langdon Tactical.
Have yet to get back to the range but now DA pull is 6.5 and the SA 3.2
Comes with nice slim grips.
No regrets!
I just took possession last week of a Beretta 92G Elite and it is one sweet shooter!
Yesterday afternoon I installed the Trigger Job in a Bag from Langdon Tactical.
Have yet to get back to the range but now DA pull is 6.5 and the SA 3.2
Comes with nice slim grips.
No regrets!
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supersport939
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Got a Beretta 92x about a month ago. I've put about 500 rounds through her. It's my first gun in about 25 years and I couldn't be happier with it. No experience with the Ruger or S&W, but i can't imagine any regrets with the 92.
stephen426
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I'd say the Beretta over the Ruger, but what about the Sig P226 or 229?
OneFreeTexan
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I’ve had a Ruger P90 for years, in 45 acp. Love it,, soaks up recoil great, of course it is as heavy as a brick,,,and can be used as one when your run out of ammo...It shoots anything I put in it, and feels good.
Then last year got an older Beretta 92, and oh, wow, where has this gun been?? It’s a 9mm, it’s a fairly heavy gun, which soaks up recoil, have a laser on it, and it is the smoothest, finest shooting gun I have ver known....the quality of fit and manufacture is fantastic. I love it.....
Then last year got an older Beretta 92, and oh, wow, where has this gun been?? It’s a 9mm, it’s a fairly heavy gun, which soaks up recoil, have a laser on it, and it is the smoothest, finest shooting gun I have ver known....the quality of fit and manufacture is fantastic. I love it.....
I couldn't feel comfortable with the Beretta 92, due to the grip circumference. My short fingers couldn't do the DA trigger pull and then transition to SA without shifting my grip.
The Ruger P89/90/93/94/944 all felt too big in my hand also.
I did get a Ruger P97 around 20 years ago and it works very well. The trigger is smooth and light, but has a long takeup, too much overtravel, and requires a longer reset than I now like.
Yet, DA pull of around 8lbs and SA pull of around 3.5lbs, without me doing any work on it.
I like the Beretta design, but approached it sideways: I bought a Taurus 99AF. Mine is one of the pre-1989 versions that allowed you to carry it Cocked and Locked, or hammer down [like Beretta 92 series from origin to about 1982, when they moved to decocker only]. I prefer the frame-mounted safety/decocker [on new Taurus 92s], due to my 1911/BHP experiences.
Since I am comfortable with C&L carry, the Taurus 99 is just right- even if the grip is fat.
I know- taurus? Yes. The 92 is considered one of their all time most reliable designs.
For those unfamiliar with the story, Taurus bought the Beretta 92 equipment from Beretta and continued making the pistol after their initial contract expired around 1978/79.
The earliest Berettas had a grip safety and a heel mag catch. By 1983 the Beretta had shifted to the slide safety and 'normal' mag catch. Taurus changed the mag catch but kept the frame mounted safety location. around 1990, Taurus changed their safety to a safety/decocker: up for C&L carry and all the way down to decock [and carry hammer down on loaded round].
Since my Taurus is worth about $150-200, I consider myself ahead. A Beretta IS a nicer gun, but for my needs, the price difference is a LOT of ammo!
The Ruger P89/90/93/94/944 all felt too big in my hand also.
I did get a Ruger P97 around 20 years ago and it works very well. The trigger is smooth and light, but has a long takeup, too much overtravel, and requires a longer reset than I now like.
Yet, DA pull of around 8lbs and SA pull of around 3.5lbs, without me doing any work on it.
I like the Beretta design, but approached it sideways: I bought a Taurus 99AF. Mine is one of the pre-1989 versions that allowed you to carry it Cocked and Locked, or hammer down [like Beretta 92 series from origin to about 1982, when they moved to decocker only]. I prefer the frame-mounted safety/decocker [on new Taurus 92s], due to my 1911/BHP experiences.
Since I am comfortable with C&L carry, the Taurus 99 is just right- even if the grip is fat.
I know- taurus? Yes. The 92 is considered one of their all time most reliable designs.
For those unfamiliar with the story, Taurus bought the Beretta 92 equipment from Beretta and continued making the pistol after their initial contract expired around 1978/79.
The earliest Berettas had a grip safety and a heel mag catch. By 1983 the Beretta had shifted to the slide safety and 'normal' mag catch. Taurus changed the mag catch but kept the frame mounted safety location. around 1990, Taurus changed their safety to a safety/decocker: up for C&L carry and all the way down to decock [and carry hammer down on loaded round].
Since my Taurus is worth about $150-200, I consider myself ahead. A Beretta IS a nicer gun, but for my needs, the price difference is a LOT of ammo!
jmstr,
This seems like your perfect Beretta, (If price was no issue) https://www.beretta.com/en/new-92x-performance/
Thinner grip with 1911 style thumb safety.
This seems like your perfect Beretta, (If price was no issue) https://www.beretta.com/en/new-92x-performance/
Thinner grip with 1911 style thumb safety.
I have one Beretta 96 and one Taurus 99.
I also have 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45acp P-series pistols (one of each).
The Beretta (and the Taurus "clone") are far more sophisticated pistols. They look better, balance better, and have much better triggers.
That being said, all five of those pistols go bang every time, and I wouldn't feel unarmed with any of the Rugers.
I also have 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45acp P-series pistols (one of each).
The Beretta (and the Taurus "clone") are far more sophisticated pistols. They look better, balance better, and have much better triggers.
That being said, all five of those pistols go bang every time, and I wouldn't feel unarmed with any of the Rugers.
JMan841- You are right- that is about perfect for me.
Except I am weird. I prefer the 1911A1 type arched MSH, instead of the 1911 flat MSH. The flat one is the most popular in the past decade or so, but, what can I say?
That is NICE though!
Of course, as a california resident, I am sure I can't get it. I doubt it makes the 'handgun list' I am allowed to buy off of [unless it is 50+ years old].
TallBall- I agree. The beretta and taurus triggers are much nicer than the Ruger.
I think of it this way: I would have NO doubts I can hit what I want/need with the Ruger, when I want/need to. And, I won't be stressed about it being in police custody until they verify it was a good shoot. I don't need to worry about it being dinged up or 'lost'.
I would be upset if that happened to a Wilson Combat, for example- but not a Ruger P-series.
Except I am weird. I prefer the 1911A1 type arched MSH, instead of the 1911 flat MSH. The flat one is the most popular in the past decade or so, but, what can I say?
That is NICE though!
Of course, as a california resident, I am sure I can't get it. I doubt it makes the 'handgun list' I am allowed to buy off of [unless it is 50+ years old].
TallBall- I agree. The beretta and taurus triggers are much nicer than the Ruger.
I think of it this way: I would have NO doubts I can hit what I want/need with the Ruger, when I want/need to. And, I won't be stressed about it being in police custody until they verify it was a good shoot. I don't need to worry about it being dinged up or 'lost'.
I would be upset if that happened to a Wilson Combat, for example- but not a Ruger P-series.
Death-Ninja
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A trick question? Beretta 92FS vs a Ruger P-anything doesn't even qualify as a no-brainer, unless you are decidedly poor, or between jobs, I would never even consider a Ruger P89 or Ruger anything, let alone choose such over the vastly superior Beretta 92FS pistol. Ruger is a decent company these days, they stand behind their stuff and that counts, but folks, they are best described as budget brand pistols, positioned almost directly between Highpoint and low end polymer pistols such as the S&W40 & S&W9 pistols....