Belt fed .22 SMG

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George Hill

Staff Alumnus
I swear I saw a photo of one...
I the 4th Edition of Assault Weapons - a soft cover book I was flipping through at Barnes and Nobles...
I looked like a fat Flash Gordon ray gun...
I forget the name of the thing - it was nasty looking and somewhat retarded... but it has a RPM rate of 2200!
Has anyone ever heard of such a hidious thing before?
 
I don't remember the maker, but there were some .22 belt fed copies of the Browning 1917 and 1919 made back around 1960. They were NFA weapons, but at that time could be registered and legal. I think the price was into 5 figures ($12,000 comes to mind, really big bucks in that era). There was at least one gunzine article.

All were handmade of course and they used neat little fabric belts. I have no idea how many made and sold, but at a guess, less than a dozen.

Jim
 
Damn, that thing would be like a laser! No recoil or muzzle jump. Can anyone find a pic of this weapon?
 
George

I remember the gun you are talking about.
It was written up in Soldier of Fortune about 20 years ago. I'm not sure but I believe the late Marsh "Carbine" Williams was the designer. He envisioned it as point man / counter sniper "bullet hose".
It looked nothing like a Browning design.
Now I've got to get up to B&N and check out the article. :)

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Regards, Sharps.
 
SHIN-TAO - Never ask What a weapon is for! Never!

(because the maker may not be able to give you a straight answer!)

LISK, I think is the name of the maker... and I believe it could fire at a rate up to 5,000 RPM some how.

Firing at that rate - it would be like a lazer. A near constant stream of small bits of lead.
It had no sights, no shoulder stock... It was intended for SPRAY and PRAY fighting.
Perhaps a near perfect weapon for POINT SHOOTING!
 
Additional info.

The gun I remember seeing in pictures was not, I believe, made for any practical use. Like some of the scaled down Gatlings, it was strictly a fun thing. It was a perfect scale model of the Browning, complete with water jacket and hose on the 1917, and perforated jacket on the 1919. Whole gun was about 18" long, going by a man's hand operating it.

Jim
 
Jim
The gun you're referring to, I believe, is the Tippman. He made very accurate scale working models of several medium and heavy machineguns in the '60s and '70s IIRC. They came in a scale crate with scale belts, ammo cans etc. Very beautiful and first class workmanship. They were made in both FA and semi.
There was a semi 1919A Browning at Knob Creek a couple of weeks ago with crate, belts, ammo can and manual. $5000 for the whole setup! These things are works of art. Mostly held by collectors and hardly ever seen for sale.
 
Yep, fal308, Tippmann rings a bell. Sharps must be thinking of something else, as I can't imagine a Tippmann being used by a point man for anybody's army. I am astonished that one was only $5000, as it seemed to me it was more than that new.

Jim
 
I think Sharps may be thinking of the American 180.

I have heard that there was some thought of LE/military use. They hae 180 or 275 round drums and a manical cyclic rate.

I have seen a Tippmann and it was a work of art. Generally they cost the same as the full size, say a 1919 cost 6K so deos the Tipmann version.
 
Hi, tankertom,

I suspect you may be right, but the 180 is not belt fed. They were reportedly used by some prison guards with laser sights. Stories were that in prison troubles, "painting" the leader was enough to put a stop to the problem. There was something about knowing that a couple of hundred 22's could easily go through the red dot that took the starch out of bad guys in a way bigger caliber stuff did not.

Jim
 
Nope - not a Tippman, not a scaled down anything... no water jacket... Just a really weird gun...

Go look for the book and check it out.
Funky as heck - but I kinda want one for some reason... I dont know why.
 
It is not a Tippman and it is not an American 180. Nor does it look like either.

As George said, in the original post, it looks like some kind of ray gun from the old Buck Rogers program.

Why a .22?
Think JUNGLE...
Suppressive firepower for close range engagements.
10,000 rounds of .22LR only weighs about 10 Lbs.
Remember, someone has to hump all that ammo.



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Regards, Sharps.
 
I think I've seen a picture of this gun in an article in the Small Arms Review a few years ago. It looked pretty much like some sort of 1950s ray gun with a forward grip and only one or two were ever made. It was intended for short range jungle use so it had no sights, the bullets were more or less walked into the target. It looked like a pretty fun way to burn up a few bricks of .22 in a couple of minutes.
 
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