Being left handed really sucks when it comes to rifles

cmdc

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I have decided to jump on the WSM bandwagon, for no particular reason. To that end, I have narrowed my choices down to a browning x-bolt Hunter, blue/wood, with23" barrel in 270WSM, and a Tikka T3 Stainless with 24 3/8" barrel in 300WSM, because that's all I've been able to find anywhere in left-hand versions.

Now I need help deciding which one to get regarding barrel length, caliber, materials, etc.

Thanks
 
One of my customers said he had some guns for sale so I went to check them out, mostly revolvers. But he had a really nice rem 700BDL in 7mm mag, the nice wood stock and leupold scope caught my eye, then I noticed the jewelled bolt-ON THE LEFT SIDE, I'd never picked up a left handed rifle before, kind of neat (I'm right handed).
More to the point, I thought the WSM/WSSM 'bandwagon' was pretty much disbanding. They have trouble chambering cartridges, and the ballistics aren't really better than the tried and true calibers they are trying (or tried) to compete with. Plus ammo is easier to find for regular cartridges.
 
Thanks for the input, Sierra280. I have been researching this thing for months, and the numbers look good on paper, and some people really like them, so I was tempted to try one on for size. The opinions online seem to run 50-50. Seem like people either really love or really hate them.
 
More to the point, I thought the WSM/WSSM 'bandwagon' was pretty much disbanding. They have trouble chambering cartridges, and the ballistics aren't really better than the tried and true calibers they are trying (or tried) to compete with. Plus ammo is easier to find for regular cartridges.

Not really, the .270 WSM and .300 WSM are here to stay. Factory ammo and components are plentiful for them.

I'll also add, I live my Savage .270 WSM. It does offer more over the standard .270, but is it needed? Eh, depends on the person and purpose.
 
Looking at my reloading manuals the 270 WSM just barely beats the standard 270, less than 50 fps with the best loads. The 300 WSM however beats 30-06 by an easy 300 fps and comes within 50 fps of standard 300 WM loadings. It has other advantages as well. More accuacy, less recoil, works better with shorter barrels, and it is chambered in more compact rifles. I really like the 300 WSM. You get a 308 size package, 300 WM perfromance, match grade accuracy, and recoil just about 1/2 way between 30-06 and 300 WM.

Both of those rounds are here to stay, especially the 300 WSM. They were only introduced in 2001, that is just 12 years ago and the 300 WSM has made more headway in 12 short years than most new chamberings. It took the 270 over 25 years before it was accepted and Winchester was ready to discontinue the round until Jack O'Connor started writing about it. I believe the 300 WSM will replace the 300 WM as the most common 300 mag round within a generation for exactly the same reasons the 300 WM replaced the older 300 H&H mag.

I'd buy the Tikka, and not just because of the chambering. I just like the rifle better. I'll also say this. I wouldn't buy a left handed rifle I didn't like just to have a left handed rifle. My brother shoots lefty and has tried everything. He had a left handed bolt rifle briefly and found he shot a right handed rifle better. As long as you stay away from monte carlo stock designs and stick to something with a Classic styled stock it is just a matter of learning how to shoot it.
 
I'm a lefty, but I prefer right handed bolt guns so I don't have to remove my trigger hand for follow up shots.

The short mag thing is a bit silly if you ask me. The thinking that created them is the same thinking are government uses... let's find something simple and complicat the heck out of it.

.223, 270, 308, 30-06, 7mm mag, 300 WM, 338... There are literally dozens of cartridges that fit in between the ones I listed, do we really need more.

There's not a creature alive the could tell whether he was shot with a 30-06 or 300 win mag. Do we really need a half a dozen cartridges in between them? That's mostly why 300 H&H died. It just wasn't necessary.

Boomer
 
Im a lefty and I shoot right handed rifles, kinda nice with a bipod. You can keep your eyes down range and hand at the trigger.
It is sad that ther'es such a huge lack of lefty rifles out there.

I guess the world just wasn't made for people like us...
 
Actually there are quite a few left handed rifle out there. Beretta, Sako, Winchester, Remington, Commercial Mausers, Browning, Savage, Weatherby, Ruger, CZ all offer left hand versions.
I shoot left handed and my son and grandson shoot left and so does my daughter. There are quite a few lefties in my safe. The thing to do is when you see a left handed rifle, buy it! They all make them but not in large numbers.
 
If you look at the sales of new guns chambered in WSM/WSSM versus the competing traditional cartridge, it would be hard to say that they are 'here to stay' gun manufactures make decisions based on sales. Will you always be able to get components and ammo, absolutely. Manufactures will always be willing to a run of odd brass or components from time to time because they know there are people who want it. But I'd be scepitcal how much longer new guns will be chambered for WSM's.

I understand there may be those who love the WSM's but we have to look at the numbers. One of my favorites is the 220 swift (came out in the '30s, and the 223 WSSM is not at all better) nowadays I think Remington is the only one chambering new rifles for it, just how it is.
 
I know they make these left handed bolts, but i'd just like to be able to go to the store and actually see one or two, ya know? Lefties are people too :D
 
I got into the habit of buying any left-hand rifle I saw, some time ago as well. I have quite a few now, but I've been reading about the WSMs and was thinking about trying one.
 
I'm right handed but have always shot long guns left handed due to my left eye being dominate and my right eye being slightly "lazy". This never allowed me to focus on a sight and target for any extended amount of time when shooting right handed. Needless to say, over the years I became very proficient with the right handed bolts often being able to take two deer running at the same time. It wasn't until I bought a .300 Win Mag Browning Stainless Stalker in a left hand version that I actually shot a dedicated left hand rifle and once I broke myself of the habit of bring my right hand back to work the bolt, I couldn't believe how much quicker it was for follow up shots. A left handed rifle makes all the difference for left handed shooters when shots are made off-hand or in a non-controlled situation unlike what you find when shooting off bags or using a bipod. Since you already have some left handed rifles, you're aware of this fact...that was more of a tidbit for everyone else.

Initially, I thought the WSM was nothing more than a fad and never had any desire of getting one...until Winchester introduced their Featherweights in a left hand version which were only chambered in the WSM calibers. Always having a love affair with the styling of the Featherweight stock as well as the Model 70 action gave me no choice but to finally get a WSM, like it or not. After doing much research, I decided on a .270 WSM as it offered the greatest performance difference from it's longer caliber's brother. I don't reload so I don't know what reloading manual the other member is referencing but ballistic charts on the Federal and Winchester show the .270 WSM thumping the .270 across the board and actually being more in line with the 7mm Remington Mag giving it a toe-to-toe fight and often slightly edging it out in the same weight bullets. For me, I'd pick the .270 WSM over the .300 WSM as the latter really brings nothing more to the table other than a shorter action and since I have a .300 Win Mag, there's really no reason for me.

I have roughly 200 rounds through my Featherweight and it adores the 140 gr. Nosler Accubond offering from Federal which I'm able to get MOA and more often than not, Sub-MOA groups with. I've probably taken close to a dozen deer with this caliber and every deer I've shot hasn't gone more than 50 yards with most dropping right in their tracks. My longest shot has been just slightly under 400 yards on a doe and she only went 40 yards before the double lung shot took it's toll. I can't say enough good things about the .270 WSM and couldn't be happier that Winchester shoved this offering down my throat with the Featherweight line. Had they offered standard calibers along with WSM's, I would have picked up one of those due to my initial thoughts on the WSM offerings and I would have never known what I was missing. I believe the .270 & .300 WSM are here to stay (unlike the other initial ones and the WSSM offerings) plus I think the .325 WSM will make it as well but time will tell on that one.

The main drawback is availability of ammo along with the cost of it. You're easily pushing $2.50 - $3.00 a round shooting the premium stuff and unless you buy online, you're very limited on the selection off the shelf. This is no big deal if you plan ahead but should something happen during mid-season or right before opening day, you're going to be screwed if you shoot something like the Federal 140 gr. Accubond load I do. Then there is the possibility of that load being discontinued (which Federal did this year) forcing you to find an alternate source or complete bullet change all together. Luckily for me, Winchester still offers it along with Nosler in their Trophy Grade ammo line but that one costs more and neither one is readily available at stores around here. My Featherweight doesn't group as well with the 130 gr. offerings but you may not have that issue with whatever rifle you choose. The other factor is the WSM calibers don't feed as smoothly as the standard offerings. It's not that they're a bear to get chambered but there is a noticeable difference at least that's been my experience.

For rifle choices, either one will serve you well but I'm going to give the nod to the Browning X-Bolt. As a matter of fact, I just came from picking up a LH X-Bolt Medallion in a .243 a few minutes ago for my daughter who like her old man, is right handed but left eye dominant. Of course I haven't shot it yet but it has some extremely cool features but like the Tikka, both are extremely compatible in features so it really is 6 of one, a half dozen of the other. I personally like the top tang safety and shorter bolt throw on the Browning as well as the oversized trigger guard. The bolt release button is a nice feature allowing you to un-chamber a round with the gun on safety. I was a little concerned with this but after messing around with it, it's a designed so you have to deliberately manipulate it so there's no chance of it accidently happening in the field due to it getting snagged or bumped. The big plus to the X-Bolt is the magazine and the way it feeds. The way the magazine is designed with the rotary type feeding, it lines the cartridge up straight with the chamber as opposed to being slightly offset like most other guns. This in itself would make a big difference in smoothing up the feeding of the WSM cartridges. As far as the magazine being polymer, that doesn't bother me as reliability and durability of PMags have shown polymer to hold up just fine. Of course, I'm a big Browning fan and the fit and finish on this X-Bolt is like all my other Browning's...SUPERB!

To make a long response a little longer, my pick would be the X-Bolt in the .270 WSM caliber as I'm sure it will bring you many, many years of enjoyment and you'll love the performance of this specific round.
 
Thanks for the nice narrative, Freakdaddy. All of the info here has been great. In bolt guns, I have two Tikkas; one in 270 Win and one in 7mm Rem Mag, and an x-bolt Hunter in 7mm-08. I also have Hawkeyes in 308 and 30-06. All left hand rifles. The Tikkas are the all-weather versions, others are blue/wood.

The thing that bugs me about the Brownings is that they don't make an all-weather left-hand rifle that I know of, but the x-bolt Hunter that I have is very nice. I love the way it feels and handles. Frankly, I'm tempted to get both, even though I know the 270WSM is going to be redundant, since I already have a 270 Win and a 7mm Rem Mag. The 300WSM is apparently a significant step up from the '-06.
 
Browning did have the A-Bolt Stainless Stalker in LH but they just took it off their website within the past 5 days so evidently, these are being discontinued. I'm sure you could find one on Gunbroker but they only come in standard calibers, no WSM offerings and have the BOSS system which I really like. Judging from the calibers you already have, the .300 WSM would definitely fill a void so it would be hard not to lean in that direction. I'm sure Browning will come out with the X-Bolt Stainless Stalker in a LH version next year should you want to wait. I forgot to add that Browning also has a rebate going on where they will pay the sales tax up to 8% but the receipt has to be dated by 9/15. Here's the link:
http://www.browning.com/products/promotions/detail.asp?Id=42
 
Thanks. I just called Browning, and the very nice CS person said he was "pretty sure" they were going to make an x-bolt composite rifle in left hand, which may be available this October. We shall see. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the current blue/wood version anyway.
 
Skywag, no I hadn't seen that one. That is a beauty, the Browning, I mean. The interesting thing is that I have bought several rifles from that retailer. It's Reed's Sporting Goods in Walker, MN.

Now my question is, between the Tikka stainless and the Browning Wood/blue, how much more of a pain is the Browning going to be to care for?
 
Savage.com.... Look at some of their longrange hunter series.... Savage makes left-handed guns everyday..;)

I checked it now, they don't list a long-range hunter in a lefthanded version, however their custom shop would facilitate something along those lines...
Th Weather Warrior series, has a 300 WSM lefthand version for list 885.00 but you can find it cheaper on internet probably...;)
 
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