Beer and skeet, Am I being oversensitive?

Wasn't it one of the Apollo astronauts that said "everything we do in life is a risk" shortly before burning up on the pad? I agree with not accepting the risk with drinking and shooting (or driving, flying, boating, etc) for myself or those around me or my family.

I don't see the reason that the risk outweighs the benefits.

So the question becomes if, according to one instructor, there is a "lawyer attached to every bullet send downrange", how many are attached to a bullet and a beer can?
 
Back when the world and I were young, a local R&G club held turkey shoots every Sunday in spring, summer and fall. Several farmers in frequent attendance made moonshine on the side and sold it at the shoots.

Pop seldom drank, but we might have a snort AFTER we shot and put the guns away. Others did drink before shooting. TTBOMK, no nasty accidents.

Still, erring on the side of caution, I'd probably leave any range were beer was being consumed, even one each.

And I've seen few beer drinkers stop at one.......
 
Yeah Dave, a different world. My first football helmet didn't have a face mask - no bar, nothing. Our cars didn't have seat belts, much less shoulder belts or air bags. We could buy firecrackers, rockets and cherry bombs. And our parents would let us.

Aluminum beer cans make lousy targets anyway compared to the old steel cans. :)

But why isn't there a zero tolerance for driving after drinking? Heck, not too many years ago it was legal in Virginia, and in most states, to drive while drinking alcohol. Not after, while. Last time I looked it was still legal in three states, but that was 3 or 4 years ago. (There is a LOT more traffic now than in the '50s thru '70s, but the cars are so much better.)
 
Yeah Dave, a different world. My first football helmet didn't have a face mask - no bar, nothing. Our cars didn't have seat belts, much less shoulder belts or air bags. We could buy firecrackers, rockets and cherry bombs. And our parents would let us.
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We didn't used to need to wear helmets while riding bicycles or skiing either.
 
Confused?????????????

Some time back, I was in a heated debate on a thread about mixing alcohol and hunting. I was catching flack from some folks saying I was being oversensitive about mixing booze and hunting. Now in this thread it seems that most folks feel that mixing trap shooting and beer is a bad idea.

Here is the conclusion I could arrive at.

Don't drink while participating in shotgun sports.

Drink while hunting.
 
Alcohol of any kind before shooting is a clearly posted No No at the local club. Echoing what others have said - beer and guns just do not mix.
 
don't buy it

Don't fall into the "higher tolerance" trap. A regular drinker at .08%BAC is just as intoxicated as a first timer at .08% BAC, and both will get there at the same time all things being equal.

The difference is that the practiced drinker has learned to mitigate their behavior and not appear drunk. But the effects on perception and reflexes are still there.

Many an alcoholic goes about life w/ BAC's that would stagger you or me. They are still drunk, it just doesn't show.
 
Wasn't it one of the Apollo astronauts that said "everything we do in life is a risk" shortly before burning up on the pad?
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Sorry, but that isn't what he said at all. He said...

We are going to have failures. There are going to be sacrifices made in the program; we've been lucky so far. If we die, we want people to accept it. We are in a risky business, and we hope that if anything happens to us it will not delay the program. The conquest of space is worth the risk of life.
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That was said by Gus Grissom. He said after John Glenn returned safely from space and the quote was published a few days after his death when Apollo 1 burned up. It doesn't really fit here because we are not in an experimental field with untested technologies. Shooting skeet should not be a risky business and it should not be worth the risk of life.
 
I reckoned it was pert near a requirement...

Heck, even pretty much soused, I haven't witnessed a shooting related incident... Is it wise? NOPE... Is it done? You betcha...

And i hear that some formal clubs have a lounge of either buy it there alcohol or BYOB type set up...

Brent
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I belonged to shooting club that served beer. I never saw any problems, then again though, I never observed anybody handling guns after drinking. It just wasn't done.
 
I will chime in, I myself would not have a problem provided it honestly is 1, 12 ounce beer. I know people that would say I only had 2, but it would be 22, 24 or even 32 ounce beers. if any guys pulled out any "shine" or other hard stuff, I would be gone in a flash.

now days I only drink at home, after my day is done, or on my day off if I want to drink, my wife drives if we go anywhere. I dont have even 1 beer while I am out if I have to drive. I took too many chances when I was young, & now I refuse to drink & do anything other than sit around. but I was a problem in my late 20's to early 30's dont know how I survived them, & never got caught or hurt anyone. I still feel bad about a few things I did, so I never get back on the road drinking. NEVER!

when I was younger I had a pretty high tolerance, when I went hunting I took 3 cans of beer, & over the course the day I would have maybe 1 beer every few hours, just a sip now & then, but most of hunting was done on a friends property, & I didnt have to drive, but stayed there. that was my late teenage years, to mid 20's

as far as the 1 drink an hour? I say maybe BS. see a guy chug a shot on an empty stomach. see how fast it hits, I knew people that did that. but a person that has food on stomach it will take longer to be absorbed.

Randy
 
Its actually proven that a beer will help your shooting by calming your nerves and at least me personally one beer does nothing to affect my judgment.
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That is funny given that alcohol has been proven to affect judgment. If it calms your nerves, then your judgment is affected. Think about it. You are suppressing neurological impulses in the brain in order to calm nerves. Judgment happens in the brain. If you have affected your nerves with drinking, you have affected your judgment. Alcohol does not choose to affect only locomotive signals of the brain while excluding other areas of the brain where judgment occurs.

As noted above, the problem isn't with drinking per se, but with the inability of many folks to be responsible and truly drink in moderation. As with taking medication to treat injuries, too many folks fall into the mistaken reasoning that if a little makes you a little better then a lot will make you a lot better.

Even if YOU can drink in true moderation, does that mean everyone else at the range is capable of doing the same thing. Sure you say one drink has no affect on your judgment. Bubba down in bay 3 says a 6 pack doesn't even give him a buzz and that he is perfectly sharp up to 8 beers. Bubba just opened his 8th beer. Go down there and reason with him on why he should not drink it and let us know how well that goes.

Look at it this way. How many drunk drivers proclaim to having only one or two beers before their crash? How many folks proclaim the benefits of drinking on mate selection?
 
My opinion.


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The issue here is NOT drinking and driving guys

No matter how valid and legitimate your concerns are on the issue, drinking and driving has nothing to do with guns
 
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