Been burned on buying a firearm online?

Paying by US Postal M.O. won't necessarily get your money back, but it does help with the prosecution of said lowlife.
And if I can't at the very minimum have several email conversations with the seller, I don't even consider the purchase.
I also support my local gun store as well.... I am a firm believer in not putting all your eggs in one, or even just a couple baskets, yet still two LGS still consider me a "regular".
 
I've bought a lot of garbage online, but I can't blame the sellers; in nearly every case they sold me the exact garbage I asked for. :D
 
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Gentlemen,

Stumbled onto this post a couple days ago but haven't had the opportunity to reply.

I've been a member of this forum since 08 but do not have a lot of posts to my record. I mention this because I get the impression that one's post count adds to one's validity and I understand that. I do visit on a very regular basis, but I'm just not an internet chatty type.

Sorry to report that I've had a quite negative experience with one of our own.

I last e-mailed the seller last Saturday (Oct 1st) and asked him for a SECOND time to take return of the pistol in question. I advised him that, if I did not receive an e-mail from him within one week, saying that a check was in the mail, that I would, at the recommendation of the gentleman I spoke with at the US Postal Service Inspectors office, be filing a formal complaint with that office. Also that I would be filing complaints with two agency's local to him - also as recommended by the USPS IO.

Now, considering that the seller has chosen to engage me in word games let me say this. Burnt?, horror story?, not really. The simply fact is this. IN MY INITIAL CONTACT with the seller, I asked a very specific question. That question was: "ARE YOU THE ORIGINAL OWNER AND HAS ANYONE BUGGERED WITH IT INTERNALLY?"

Answer: "I haven't messed with it at all, it ran perfect from the factory."

Long story short. Pistol arrives. I take it home and go to clean it a couple days later. Someone has, what appears to be, used a dremmel to shave down the slide, top to bottom of the inside surface, opposite the ejection port. Also, I go to put the paperwork behind the foam insert and a spring falls out of the box??????????? I did drop the mag, work the slide, check for an empty chamber, and drop the hammer at my FFL's place (with his permission to drop the hammer of course), but the lighting was not great and I was mistakenly operating with a lot of trust.

Now I hope Y'all can tell that I can communicate rather clearly and simply (see my couple other posts also). I've spent a considerable amount of time e-mailing the seller not to mention taking the pistol to a shop for a second opinion. The gentleman there said he had never seen anything like that on a SA pistol and would send it back to SA if one came to him like that. He also offered that he suspected that it was done because of poor slide to barrel fit and pointed out some light scratches on the rear of the barrel adjacent to that area on the slide.

What I'm getting in return is:

I didn't touch it. (I did not say YOU did it)
That is normal, I have two other Springfields like that. ( WOW SA must really be slippin)
Where, can you send me a picture. (does anyone reading this not understand the area I described?)
The gun shoots fine, I won an IDPA competition with it. (besides the point)(and you listed is as "maybe 100 rounds fired")
You're just hung up on cosmetics. (see my AK and tell me that)
Where, inside or outside. (again WOW)
Is it the polished feed ramp, that is standard on XDs. (I did say the slide)
Your issue is not with me, it's with Springfield. (I did not buy the pistol from SA, I bought it from you)

Honest to God fellas, were it not for the fact that the seller told me twice "your issue is with Springfield, not me" I might actually feel sorry for him because I think he has a few loose screws. The seller has sold quite a few firearms here and if he is not guilty of not being straight up with me, he is, at a minimum guilty of not knowing the pistol he sold me and I think I'm being quite generous with that statement.

Bottom line, after walking around on this good earth for 55 years, I broke one of my own rules. Don't but it if you can't check it out or don't have an ironclad guarantee. My first internet gun purchase, never again. I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE PURCHASE HAD THE SELLER TOLD ME ABOUT WHATEVER WAS DONE TO THE SLIDE BY WHOMEVER. AND THEN THERE IS THE SPRING FROM ??????

Been looking at that model for 5 years. My son dropped $500 on me for my 55th birthday (early Sep) before he left for his senior year at college. I've raised him alone since he was 2 years old. Good kid, sorry I screwed up with his gift money, but I'll never tell him.

I'm open to suggestions or observations.

Thanks
 
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My one and only FFL transfer took place last week and I can't imagine the next one going any smoother. I gave him the information on a Wednesday afternoon around 1-1:30 am. By the time I got back to the shop (work) he sent email telling me that info was faxed. The next day around 2:30 pm I received a phone call and email stating that my rifle had arrived. Transfer and associated paper work cost $32.00.
 
I had a great experience buying a firearm from a dealer on gunbroker.

I also arranged FTF sales of a couple of firearms on texasguntrader.

So far, no bad experiences.
 
mudlark
Yes, seller a member of this forum

The US Postal Service will not help on this issue. It is the quality of the merchandise in dispute, not whether you were scammed out of your money with nothing to show for it. The only thing you can do is work with the seller or take him to small claims court which has limits varying between $1,500 to $15,000 depending on State.

BTW, I would not be surprised if it came from the factory in the condition you'd described, and yes pictures would help.
 
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