BB Guns legal in NJ?

Frank Ettin said:
So what?



Where do people get the preposterous idea that just because something has or hasn't happened to them it will or will not happen to someone else? Your limited experiences are not evidence of a universal rule.
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Pointing out the idea that NJ law enforcement are not better at their job than law enforcement in any part of the country. If you look at the rest of the quote that was omitted, I clearly say that the plan of action he is doing is the correct one.
 
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Screwball said:
Pointing out the idea that NJ law enforcement are not better at their job than law enforcement in any part of the country.....
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Nor can your limited personal experiences legitimately be extrapolated to reflect on the diligence of New Jersey law enforcement.

Personal anecdotes aren't data.
 
Frank Ettin said:
Nor can your limited personal experiences legitimately be extrapolated to reflect on the diligence of New Jersey law enforcement.



Personal anecdotes aren't data.
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Fair enough, but just for clarification, how does post 16 in here fit in regards to anecdotes/data?

Not trying to start anything, but rather know what is allowed/not allowed, so I don’t have to bother you in the future with a post that needs to be reviewed. If there isn’t anything wrong with that one, I’m going to need some clarification on what specifically was wrong with mine... because I see the two similar, just at different ends of the spectrum. Anytime I see NJ L/E brought up, it is always like they are these super cops that can smell a firearm twenty miles away. Not a suggestion of breaking the law, but if followed per 2C:39, a person isn’t going to be jammed up for legal transportation of a firearm just because they are within NJ.

And to be clear, not a jab at you being a moderator or TFL rules. Specifically, I rather not make you need to do more work on here than you probably already do (moderated two other forums for a few years, so know how much fun it is).

And to also add, Merry Christmas.
 
Screwball said:
Fair enough, but just for clarification, how does post 16 in here fit in regards to anecdotes/data?
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Your comments are anecdotal because (a) you live in NJ and can (under limited circumstances) transport a BB gun in your vehicle, and (b) you note that those times when you have been in traffic stops you didn't have a firearm in the vehicle anyway, so even if they had searched your vehicle you wouldn't have gotten "jemmed up." So your personal anecdotes don't even correlate to the OP's situation.

Even if the plural of anecdote were to be data, the fact that 'X' number of people illegally transported BB guns in the trunks of their cars and didn't get caught doesn't change the fact that it's illegal. (Which you, yourself, stated.) Some people are more risk-aversive than others. If Screwball is willing to run the risk of getting busted the next time has has a taillight burned out and a BB gun in his trunk, that's his choice.

But this site doesn't allow us to advocate that other people engage in unlawful behavior, and IMHO "suggesting" that the OP could "probably" get away with it seems to me to be very close to violating that rule.

The answer apparently is that it is not legal to have the BB gun in the vehicle when cruising around New Jersey to visit friends and/or family. With that established, how to deal with that reality is a personal decision best left to the OP himself.
 
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From Screwball:
"Fair enough, but just for clarification, how does post 16 in here fit in regards to anecdotes/data?"

It's misleading data.

I frequently go to a couple of gun shows in PA and have bought firearms there.(long guns; handguns had to be sent to my local FFL). And I've done nothing illegal. I don't care if they write down my license plate number and issue an APB.

But that's not the issue here. NJ residents are allowed to transport firearms from a place where it's legal to another place where it's legal. That's it. What's not being considered is in the case of an auto accident, which in my experience is never anticipated but happens. Now you have cops on the scene and an illegal gun in your car.
 
I am visiting family here so choice had to come. We left the BB Gun in PA and will pick it up when we are back in Feb so not that big of a deal. As far as just bringing it knowing that I wouldn't be searched...its just not worth it.
 
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