Barrett M82-A1??

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THE CHOSEN ONE

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Hello all,

I'm trying to decide between a Barrett M82-A1 or a class 3 transferable M-16. I have been waying the options of both of both sides. I can't decide between a long range bad a** rifle or a fun full auto M-16. Thanks



Thanks Scout! I guess I should have asked my question. What does everyone here think I should get. Please tell me why you feel that way. Thanks again.


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This is a tough one.

My first impression is to get the Barrett because I like the option of being able to poke holes in many layers from a long ways away. The other side of me likes the thought of being able to run through a 30-round mag in a couple of seconds just for fun.

I guess my practical nature would actually steer me to the M16 because of the cost of the ammo.
 
I think I'd go for the Barrett. It may not be too much longer before you can't get them anymore... You'll probably always be able to get a full auto.
 
It would not even be a contest I would rather own the Full auto M-16 (with a barret you have one gun where in a M-16 you have a multi caliber platform that is full auto capable 22 cal to 50 AE) The barret isn't that accurate either if you are looking for accuracy out to a long distance for what you pay for one you can almost get a belt fed .50 Browning M-2 machinegun.
 
Neither...............

Go for a .338 Lapua Mag, in a Sako TRG series...........
Or a Windrunner, in .408 Chey-Tac.
Barrett 82's, are very hazardous to the shooter....IF not maintained properly.
If the recoil mechanism breaks, or barrel sticks you go to the hospital, for a shoulder rebuild. (Period).
The 16, while maybe FUN, is a waste of ammo to say the least.......only VERY well trained individuals can keep one controlled for over three round bursts.
Spray & pray..............
As an investment....the Barrett will probably exceed the 16, as they are way over priced now.
Just my .02's.....fwiw:)
 
Tshoes,

Where did you hear that, I have never read that in my searches. I really like the 82-A1 but it ain't worth a trip to the hospital. What are the advantages of the .338 Laupa mag in the TGR series. Hey thanks everyone for your imput.



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From....

Folks who have seen it happen, one of our Irregular posters here BTW, is one very creditable source(Michael), and another Ex Spec Ops gent I know.
Seems the recoil is absorbed by the barrel and/or spring mecanism as it is forced rearward.( the barrel will stick).
This usually happens by poor maintenance, and lubrication.
When it DOES, you the shooter, are the shootee...so to speak....your shoulder gets ALL the rearward recoil, as there is NO dampening of the force coming back.
And the barrel does not return to the forward position.( which is in effect PULLING the recoil forces OFF you).
TRG's, .338 Lapooie.....more accurate, less expensive ammo, and better accuracy at extended ranges.
And last but not least, LESS recoil, and no trips to the hospital.
.50's are way overated, just from an accuracy standpoint.....
I have seen guys shoot 20 rounds to hit a 10"-20" hunk of steel, at 1000 yards.........what's the point?....I can do far better with a .308.
What is the odds of hitting at 1500, 0r 2000+.....average shooter NADA.
The odds are way more in my favor.......you have minute of Volkwagen, or 1/2 moa....I'll take the latter .:)
 
Tshoes -" No dampening of the force coming back"

Huh?

Then what the hell is that muzzle brake doing on the barrel?

And where are all these people that have been put in the hospital when they fired the bolt action Barretts and McMillans?

I call BS.

There are so many misconceptions and wives tales floating around about the Barrett .50 I could write a book.
 
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Re: the "sticking barrel shoulder-killer" therory

The Barrett 90, 95 and 99 are all bolt-actions with FIXED barrels - no spring-loaded barrels to absorb recoil, no semi-auto action to absorb recoil, just the muzzle brake and buttpad to stop that thing from knocking your shoulder off...and haven't heard any complaints about recoil over in BiggerHammer's .50BMG forum. Ditto for, well, every other .50BMG rifle out there other than the M82! With a good muzzle brake and shoulder pad, the "it will blow your shoulder off!!!" is a myth. Even the legendary .50BMG _pistol_ is manageable.

Take the muzzle brake off, however, and your chiropractor will love you.
 
Wow!!! Tough question and would have to thing about this for a month before I could decide.

The M-16 prices seemed to have peaked and have been stable for sometime.

I believe the Barrett 82 is being made into a bolt action instead of a semi-auto. You may want to wait until its available.

It is a toss up between the two. I would first ask what ranges are available to you. If you don't have any full auto ranges, you may want to go with the .50 caliber, but if your range only goes up to 100 yards, there is no need for a .50 for only 100 yards, go with the M-16.


Buy what you think will get the most use based on the facilities available.

Good Luck, either choice is a winner!!!
 
Eat Crow & Apology time

Nomex Boy, All
seems I owe you guy's an apology.........

Got togeter with one of my sources, and it seems I have been under the wrong impression.

The barrel problem, seems to be not a problem, and the only time the scenario that i described could possibly happen is IF the muzzle breah broke, or somehow came off.

So, I humbly eat crow, and ask for your forgivness and apologies.
In the future, I will refrain from FIRST informatin, and make sure I'm right before I go ahead and post......

Think twice, post once....seems like someone has already said that before.
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I have seen a few M82A1's and never had any problems with the recoil operation system. We did get one from 7th Marines that had the muzzle brake canted at a 45 degree angle, which sent up huge clouds of crap when fired. The piss poor accuracy of 50calibers is normally due to bad ammo, plus the Barret 82 doesn't seem to be the most accurate of rifles. A windrunner or bolt action Barret(95 or 99) is better

Two shoes, 408 Chey Tac? Damn, talk about buying a completely unsupported cartridge:) I'd say hold off on this critter, it looks like a solution in search of a problem to me. Kinda like the 15mm FN machine gun of a couple years ago. Great concept, good execution, zero demand. Semper Fidelis...Ken M
 
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Yeah, for a civie, may be a bit much....go to www.snipersparadise.com
Chat Forums, Extreme Long Range
If you want to see the reviews............
I think 15" groups @ 2000 yards.......
Kinda impressive..........
Not near as good as a .308, but close..hehehehehe.
Definitely a special app piece, being designed for replacing the .338 Lapoooie.:D
 
For the life of me, I can't imagine anyone wanting to get a Class 3 full-auto these days. They are extremely expensive to buy and to shoot. They increase barrel wear. They are difficult to control. You are limited on where you can shoot, etc., etc. I can think of better novelties to spend money on.
 
Gotta catch up on my reading and general rabble rousing.

Barrett 82's;

Nice piece of work until it doesn't, then you replace parts in the weapon, or reset parts in you, depending on the failure.

Own an original 82 (purchased mid 80's) and know that the things have this cute little habit of letting the barrel go into free recoil under very limited conditions. Like when the brake isn't on tight, or the mech binds and the brake has to deal with all the recoil force, or the owner did not assemble it correctly, and it's such a simple gun to put together.

Mebbe the new models have a different brake, but you have to keep in mind that the 82 barrel is supposed to move, so just how good can that brake be? If it was equal to an Armalite you'd have a mag fed straight pull repeater.

Got to see a shooter carted off due to improper maintenance/failed mech in 1999, not fatal by a long way, but he did get punted across terrafirma for a few feet.
Something is going to move, either the operating mech...or you( parts thereof anyway)

Would I own one, hell....I do. Would I shoot it....yuppers, shot it for years until I figured out that it's accurate to minute of vehicle and any box stock Savage rifle can out shoot one to 1000 yards. Cheaper too.

And never once got hurt shooting it, but I sure have seen failures. If you want one buy it, pay attention to the manual, and don't worry about it.

You could get into more trouble with a reloading kit!:D
 
If you have an AR already and want a semi cheap .50 then check out www.watsonsweapons.com then click on on products and then at the top of the page click on .50 BMG AR-15 Upper. Kind of cool and cheap for a .50
 
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