Barrel Conditioner for Muzzleloaders
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NoSecondBest
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Waste of money. I can't believe the amount of useless junk being sold to shooters and hunters claiming to do anything and everything. There's a group of marketing people out there laying awake at night thinking up more gadgets and tricks to sell to the shooters and hunters in this country. Here's what's going to happen next on this post. Someone(s) will agree with me, some will disagree with me, and some will tell you something else works even better. Know what? When it's all said and done you still won't know the answer. You'll just have a lot of different opinions. I shoot a lot of muzzle loaders and I have for forty-five years now. My opinion of bore butter is that it's a waste of money and does nothing. However, that's my opinion. Hey, it doesn't cost a lot to try it so get some and see for yourself if you have a few extra bucks to spend. At least you'll have your own answer and the makers of Bore Butter will have some of your money. Good luck.
NoSecondBest
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Recommended to do what? I've never seen a muzzle loader barrel that needed anything but cleaned after being shot. What are you trying to accomplish or what do you think needs to be done? I clean my muzzle loaders and then I run a patch down the barrel with some gun oil on it if it's going to be stored for a long period of time. I've never had a barrel rust or anything and my guns all shoot great. I'm not even sure what people are doing when they use bore butter. A bunch of my friends were using it and when I asked them what they were using it for they said to condition the barrel. I asked them what that meant and they didn't really know. Someone told them they needed to use it if they wanted to shoot muzzle loaders. I just don't get what they're trying to accomplish and they aren't sure themselves. Do you use bore butter in your handguns or centerfire rifles? The only steel I've ever seen that needed seasoning was a new cast iron frying pan. Sounds like some cooking oil company is looking for a new market and found it. I think Chef Boyardee invented this stuff.
"Recommended to do what? I've never seen a muzzle loader barrel that needed anything but cleaned after being shot. What are you trying to accomplish or what do you think needs to be done? I clean my muzzle loaders and then I run a patch down the barrel with some gun oil on it if it's going to be stored for a long period of time. I've never had a barrel rust or anything and my guns all shoot great. I'm not even sure what people are doing when they use bore butter. A bunch of my friends were using it and when I asked them what they were using it for they said to condition the barrel. I asked them what that meant and they didn't really know. Someone told them they needed to use it if they wanted to shoot muzzle loaders. I just don't get what they're trying to accomplish and they aren't sure themselves. Do you use bore butter in your handguns or centerfire rifles? The only steel I've ever seen that needed seasoning was a new cast iron frying pan. Sounds like some cooking oil company is looking for a new market and found it. I think Chef Boyardee invented this stuff. "
After I've shot my center fires, I normally just put some lubrication down the barrel (on a patch) and call it good. Never had a issue with rust on any of my guns. So I'm assuming I can do the same with muzzle-loading guns?
After I've shot my center fires, I normally just put some lubrication down the barrel (on a patch) and call it good. Never had a issue with rust on any of my guns. So I'm assuming I can do the same with muzzle-loading guns?
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Not my opinion, just my experience.
I seasoned the bore of my T/C .45 Cherokee with Bore Butter as directed - clean the bore thoroughly, then dry & warm the bbl until it was almost too hot to handle, then swap the bore with the BB - which I did when BB was introduced in the 1970's (?).
Since then, every time after I was finished shooting & hunting with the treated Cherokee, I swab out the fouling with a few patches wetted with Moose Milk (T/C #13 bore cleaner) until the patches come out fairly (not perfectly) clean.
After running a few dry pathes through the bore, I make a pass with a patch loaded with BB.
I still own/use the rifle today - the bbl is rust & buildup free, and shoots just as accurately as the day I bought it, long ago.
The method has worked so well for me, over the years, that I treat all my hammerguns with the same.
That Cherokee is pictured below, along with it's .45 Seneca brother.
I never did the treatment with the 1 or 2 inlines I played with for a short time.
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Not my opinion, just my experience.
I seasoned the bore of my T/C .45 Cherokee with Bore Butter as directed - clean the bore thoroughly, then dry & warm the bbl until it was almost too hot to handle, then swap the bore with the BB - which I did when BB was introduced in the 1970's (?).
Since then, every time after I was finished shooting & hunting with the treated Cherokee, I swab out the fouling with a few patches wetted with Moose Milk (T/C #13 bore cleaner) until the patches come out fairly (not perfectly) clean.
After running a few dry pathes through the bore, I make a pass with a patch loaded with BB.
I still own/use the rifle today - the bbl is rust & buildup free, and shoots just as accurately as the day I bought it, long ago.
The method has worked so well for me, over the years, that I treat all my hammerguns with the same.
That Cherokee is pictured below, along with it's .45 Seneca brother.
I never did the treatment with the 1 or 2 inlines I played with for a short time.
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The debate will never end over stuff like this. Lots of factory made stuff and home made stuff that will end up working adequately. I have used bore butter for many years and have been happy with it so no need to change. After cleaning my barrels I leave a good coating in them and have never had a problem. I like to keep my muzzleloading barrels oil free, since you are dealing with a water soluable powder and I don't think petroleum based products are compatible with black powder. Some guys use petroleum products and claim they work just fine....so each to their own.
Basing an opinion of Bore Butter on it's cost is not a big deal either as a tube lasts a long time and goes a long way.
You will find a lot of opinions about shooting what is fashionable at the moment, but I've shot a LOT of black powder over the years and have found nothing unfavorable with Bore Butter.
Basing an opinion of Bore Butter on it's cost is not a big deal either as a tube lasts a long time and goes a long way.
You will find a lot of opinions about shooting what is fashionable at the moment, but I've shot a LOT of black powder over the years and have found nothing unfavorable with Bore Butter.
North East Redneck
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I use bore butter, I like it. After cleaning I give the bore a light coating. Been using it for years. Do you need it? No. Will it ruin your gun? I think not. As a rust inhibitor I prefer it over oil. YMMV.
A time and place !!!
I have been "seasoning" my barrels for a number of years and have to admit that it has been hit and miss. Started out with my SideCockers and have even seasoned, blessed In-lines. Takes time a patience and the older I get the less of that I have. Bore Butter & Wonder Lube are not exclusive to seasoning. During our classes, I'm always running a Seasoning-Patch through the bores. ..
As in most things, there is a time and place for it's use and it's entirely your call. Unless there are safety issues, I never question one's equipment or technique. .....
Enjoy and;
Be Safe !!!
I have been "seasoning" my barrels for a number of years and have to admit that it has been hit and miss. Started out with my SideCockers and have even seasoned, blessed In-lines. Takes time a patience and the older I get the less of that I have. Bore Butter & Wonder Lube are not exclusive to seasoning. During our classes, I'm always running a Seasoning-Patch through the bores. ..
As in most things, there is a time and place for it's use and it's entirely your call. Unless there are safety issues, I never question one's equipment or technique. .....
Enjoy and;
Be Safe !!!
Rifleman1776
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Sorry I am late to this thread. And kudos to the others who have well answered. The notion of 'seasoning' or 'conditioning' a muzzle loading barrel is a combination of marketing hype and myth. They are made of steel. Use them, clean, lube is all needed. Bore Butter is a clever name for a commercial product that is actually a pretty good patch lube but nothing more. You can make your own lubes for a lot less money if you wish.
maillemaker
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I took first place 25, 50, and agg with my Colt Walker last weekend using Crisco and Beeswax lube.
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Sure Shot Mc Gee
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Don't like TCs bore butter. Too messy. Ox yoke Wonder lube been my choice for many years. Light coat on a cleaning patch down a hot evaporated aired out barrel. Seems to hold during its winter storage time in this climate. But than again so does straight out of the can Balistol done the same way. At one time I thought my barrel was on its way to be seasoned. But many here said there is no such thing as barrel seasoning. Took a pretty good ribbing for commenting here in trying to prove my point that there was. But no matter. Whether of not there is such a thing as seasoning. Its comforting too think so. FWIW: If your really want to help your barrel be all that it can be. Shoot it more often.