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I'm sorry, but I've checked your OPs, I wonder if these are real questions, you joined over a year and a half ago, and your post's are all over the place saying a lot of no, or low detail's to answer.

To many inconsistency's in your post's to have credibility with me. I'm sure you won't fallow up on my post if you even ever read it.

TBS, your Caps Lock/Shift botton is not in use.

PS: I'm not calling you a troll, but,.........:cool:
 
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The 357 SIG bullet was designed not to partially fragment like the 357 MAG. Objective was to penetrate modern sloped windshields with enough residual energy left to incapacitate a vehicle driver. Texas DPS is all smiles about the round. Apparently hearing loss is not a factor the agency considers important. No doubt there are holdouts within the ranks who prefer the 45 ACP previously in service.
 
Wow, the 50 cal sniper rifle is insane in that video!!!! It practically blows the entire barrel up. Bad a$s man, good find. Thanks for the video post.
 
I wasn't gonna say much here but a couple of things came up...

Most standard service rounds penetrate auto windshields just fine and do so with enough power still left to stop a person afterward. The 357 Sig has no distinct advantage there. The same is true of auto and truck bodies.

Rock Sheriff's up here just had a failure with Gold Dot 357 Sig breaking apart after going through a windshield. The suspect had damage to one eye but is fine going to stand trial for attempting to run down the deputy.

In this case the round did it's job of stopping the suspect and he was arrested. I don't see the failure. JHP ammo can fragment, so does ball on occasion.

Most modern handguns have no problem feeding 9mm ammo or 40S&W or 45acp provided the mags are in good shape. Some older designs had some problems feeding some types of JHP ammo but this proved to be an easy fix. Some, like the Glock 19, are considered as close to 100% reliable as a gun can get. Neither the 9mm, the 40S&W, the 45acp or most ammo designed for semis has trouble feeding if the gun and ammo are in good shape. The 357 Sig holds no real life advantage there.

The 357 Sig is a good round but in efforts to promote it a few years back one well known gunwriter made some claims about it that have been widely repeated and do not exactly hold up to examination imo.

tipoc
 
Tipoc I understand what your saying. My point was the round shouldn't have fragmented. The noise or the fact that the gun went off could have stopped the felon. This particular case was an example of a failure with the 357 sig. I was at the Sig Academy a few years ago and we fired it through windshields and it worked very well. The bottle neck design does lend itself to reliable feeding but I never had a problem with my 40S&W G22, (the 40S&W supposedly less reliable then all of the above mentioned calibers but I never had a problem with it.) I have had a problem with putting down deer struck by vehicles with the 357 sig. I believe the 180 grain 40S&W works better, but the Maine Wardens claim they have put down numerous road hit moose with the 357 sig and it worked great. Everyone has different experiences. Back to the original OP, different rounds work for different reasons and it's not always a function of FPS and Ft lbs.
 
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