Baby Rock & Browning's "The Right 380"

Gyvel, I guess "clone" is in appropriate I should have said "copied from" as there are differences. The S mags work in my Gov., Mustang mags work in my SIG P 238 and Kimber Micro but the Star DK from which the others were spawned has a different floor plate. Star S mags also work in the Mustang, Sig, DK and Kimber.
 
I was considering the Star. They are less expensive and I love my Super B, but I thought that parts might be easier to find for the Colt.
 
Gyvel, I guess "clone" is in appropriate I should have said "copied from" as there are differences. The S mags work in my Gov., Mustang mags work in my SIG P 238 and Kimber Micro but the Star DK from which the others were spawned has a different floor plate. Star S mags also work in the Mustang, Sig, DK and Kimber.
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Gotcha. I knew the Colt was based on a Star. I had one back in the early 80s that had the original solid sear and not the stamped POS. It was comfortable to shoot, but the plastic parts left me cold as well as the nuisance of having to push the ejector down during reassembly, so I started carrying my Browning 1910 again and haven't looked back since.
 
Gyvel, Aaaah a Browning 1910, a pistol a hundred years ahead of it's time, would love to see FN release them again but made as the originals with hand fitting and polishing = art form in a pistol.
 
Gyvel, Aaaah a Browning 1910, a pistol a hundred years ahead of it's time, would love to see FN release them again but made as the originals with hand fitting and polishing = art form in a pistol.
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There was a company in Texas ("Lone Star," I think) that was going to manufacture them. They featured one in a copy of Gun Digest (in the 80s, I believe), but nothing ever came of it.:(:(

I can't help but to agree with you about the 1910, though. There was a about a year's hiatus while I carried the Mk IV Govt. .380, but I went back to the old faithful. I keep a cache of about a dozen as backups.:D
 
I walked into a LGS last week and got my first introduction to the baby rock. I have always kept my distance of .380s because of the size of the round and for my big hands the size of the pistols. I picked this one up before I even realized it was a .380 and I was already sold. It feels great in the hand and has everything I like in a CCW; a hammer, a little bit of weight but not heavy, and the option of a safety (i don't use it often because of the hammer but I like it being there).

I cant speak for the browning as I have not held it but I really enjoy this little RIA. I even carried it over my sig the other day and was quite comfortable IWB at the 7o'clock position, even while driving.

Oh, and it's got a beaver tail, gotta love the beaver tail! An invention so great God even put it on the platypus and Americans put it on their iconic pistol!
 
I have a stainless Colt Govt .380 and I like it a lot. I've put easily 500 rounds of various types thru it and it has been flawless.
 
Many years ago, when the country was suffering the vituperations of a president with similar political philosophy, and equally poor skill, and who INSISTED upon INFLICTING his leadership on the nation, I had a hand in hot-loading a Llama .380 with a locking breech. After fashioning a stronger recoil spring, and making what might have been the world's first polymer/cork recoil buffer (and maybe the 1st case of carpal tunnel), we managed to reliably launch a 109 grain cast projectile at 1080 f/s without stretching or blowing anything up.

It's not Buffalo Bore performance, but WE were proud of it (and the fact that we walked away from the project with all fingers and body parts intact).

Might be interesting to revisit the project with a more modern .380 and see what develops.
 
Like a (very) few other people I know of, I've long been fascinated by the notion of a 1911 in .380 ACP. I can't see any reason why it can't be made to work. I looked into converting a 9mm Commander to .380 but I couldn't find anyone who would build me a barrel with a .380 ACP chamber. I did get as far as downloading some 9mm cases using 95-grain .380 bullet5s and approximating .380 ACP velocity. Looked like a recoil spring in the 10 to 12 pound range would be about perfect, and if you loaded hot the recoil spring could go up another pound or two.

That new Llama looks interesting, but ... when did Llama get reborn? I thought the last time they went belly up was going to be the final act.
 
-when did Llama get reborn?
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News to me too.

I have fond memories of a Llama Comanche .357 revolver that just did everything a revolver was supposed to do. I might be in the minority but I the ones I saw were nice, functional handguns.

More info here:

Resurrecting the Spanish brand, Filipino company Metro Arms is now making handguns under the classic name. One of the new-old pistols is the Micromax. Eagle Imports is handling sales in the US.
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/06/llama-micromax/
 
Hunting, Surprise when I saw "Micro Max" on the slide, as I indicated the new pistol is a copy of the Spanish version but made in the Phillippines. Can you tell me if it is blow back (as in the old MM) or a locked breech as in earlier Llama 380's ? My Micros are quite reliable shooters a bit more bite than my locked breech Llama .380's but fun and accurate. Since I have a large collection of Star and Llama .380's as well as Sig, Glock, Kimber, Walther and Colt .380's the new Llama is not on my bucket list but I wish other purchasers luck with it.
 
Mikey, I picked up the Rock Island and it is a blowback design. So far it seems pretty reliable but time will tell I assume.

I must say those new llamas have been on my radar for a couple of months now. As I said before, I have never been a guy who seeks out .380s but when I first stumbled on the new version of the little things I did scratch my head and say 'huh'. Anyone know an anticipated release date/price?
 
I thought the Colt Government .380 was the best of any .380 ever made, allowing for the fact that it was a single action, which some love and others don't. They were made in several variations for a while, including a lightweight version. They were very well made and almost faultless. The best feature was that they were locked breech automatics and as such, had almost no recoil. The original pre-war Colt "pocket" automatics were straight blowback and did have a kick. They had some other good points but they're all at least older than I am and probably should be retired. I should be, too, but I'm not. The best feature of the old Colts was that they were designed as a carry gun. Some might not like the grip safety, though.

Star made a variety of .380s that were similar but they were not a comparable quality. Something broke or came loose on every Star pistol I had, although they were all still functional.

I think the .380 still has a place as a defensive caliber and it's much better than a .22. Pistols in .380 were army issue in several armies during WWII.
 
Look for the Llama Micromax .380 coming from Eagle imports Their released at this time Might be hard to find .

Go to the Eagle website for information. They own the Llama name and rights now. :D
 
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