AWB poll

Dang. We got hammered on this one

"Should Congress let the assault weapons ban expire without a vote?"


Yes 30.7% (82039 responses)

No 69.3% (184850 responses)

266,889 total
 
RickD:

As to the 70 plus%, when I looked a moment ago, who voted no, I wonder how these people would define the thing they voted to retain the ban on.

Looks as if the thing will die in any case, at least for now, which leaves me wondering as to the following. The ban dies on Monday, at whatever time it happens. At about 0600, Eastern TimeTuesday, give or take a little, the sun rises just like any other day.

What will the media hysterics then say?
 
CNN is running a similar poll too. Apparently they didn't like the response last week when most voted that the ban should expire. I guess if you ask the same question enough times eventually you'll get the response you want.
 
JohnK wrote:

CNN is running a similar poll too. Apparently they didn't like the response last week when most voted that the ban should expire. I guess if you ask the same question enough times eventually you'll get the response you want.

Yeah, you're right...Hopefully some people here will vote like they did all last week on numerous polls. Here is the link:

www.cnn.com
 
Alan asks: "RickD: I wonder how these people would define the thing..."

Well, my guess is they're a wee bit confused...
Violence Policy Center Director

"Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."

-Josh Sugarmann, "Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation", March 1989


"The NRA is right...handgun controls do little to stop criminals from obtaining handguns."

-Josh Sugarman, former communications director for the Coalition Against Gun Violence
 
RickD wrote:

Well, my guess is they're a wee bit confused...

Quote:
Violence Policy Center Director

"Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."

-Josh Sugarmann, "Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation", March 1989


"The NRA is right...handgun controls do little to stop criminals from obtaining handguns."

-Josh Sugarman, former communications director for the Coalition Against Gun Violence

Rick, did anyone ever mention to you, your seeming gift for UNDERSTATEMENT.

As to the quote from VPC Director, mentioning "fully automatic machineguns", did you or anyone else ever come upon another kind of machinegun? I hadn't, but then possibly I've missed a few things of interest.

Also, listening to brodcasts of what were representeded as Kerry coments, he mentioned that the sale of Uzi's and AK-47's would be allowed, given sunset of this assault weapons ban.

This was intreresting, for as I recall, the ban on the import of the UZI goes back to executive orders of George H.W. Bush, issued in 1989. 1989 came severeal years prior to 1994. As to the sale of AK-47's not unless a whole bunch of other laws are also changed or repealed, for the AK-47, the real ones that is, they being the ones that the world is literally awash in, are selective fire weapons, and as such, are not importable into the U.S., except for use by the federal government, or government agencies.

I suggested to Kerry that while he is most certainly entitled to his own opinion, he was not entitled to his own facts. Should he respond, I will post his offering. Must be wonderful to be a rich, influential politican, for whom 2 + 2, rather than equaling 4, come to equal whatever happens to be convenient, at any given moment.

Anyhow, I make it about 23:40 hours, Eastern Time, which means that in aboiut 20 minutes, this assault weapons ban becomes history. I would be very much surprised if it were not reintroduced, in some form, in the next session of The Congress. That battle will have to be fought again, next session, and likely beyond too.
 
alan,

Anyhow, I make it about 23:40 hours, Eastern Time, which means that in aboiut 20 minutes, this assault weapons ban becomes history.

Dude! Where've you been all day? We've been buying ex-LE mags for almost 24 hours! :D

(It went away at 12:01AM today. :) )
 
Tamara:

I might have misunderstood, been misinformed or who knows what, but it was my impression that the thing sunsetted post midnight, say 00:01 hours, 14 September. Had I misunderstood?

In any event, the thing has, for now, died. Question is as follows. Can we keep it that way, and then start on the repeal of some of the other garbage that resides in the federal statute books?

Of course, it will likely be reintroduced next session of the Congress, where and when the battle will, of needs, be refought, along with other battles.

By the bye, what price the magazines you mentioned, and for which pistols? Seen any 15 rounders for the Star Model 30M, caliber 9mm Para? This pistol has been out of production for several years, so far as I know, and Star bit the dust too.
 
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