At the range with new SW M&P 2.0

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pgb205

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Bought 17 round M&P 2.0 a few days ago and took it to the range today. What can I say: jam-o-matic spectacular! Fired probably 50 rounds of various ammo from the two supplied magazines, the best I got was 2 consecutive rounds without a FTF. Took the gun apart but didn't see anything obviously wrong. Also got slide closing on an empty magazine, and slingshot racking wouldn't work, I would have to pull the slide back and hold the slide release down in order to close.

As far as workmanship, the reason I chose M&P was due to ergonomics ,which are supposed to be superior to Glocks.
First of all: the stippling. Smith&Wesson does say that stippling is aggressive. But they don't say that it is this AGGRESSIVE. For me the gun is painful to hold; feels like rough sand-paper and it is even worse when trying to move the slide back or moving my fingers to press magazine release button.
Second: Back-straps are not flush with the handle around the edges, which creates the same painful friction as my first complaint above.
Lastly, magazines seem to be very lose in the handle. At least when compared to Glock 19

Overall, I am unsurprisingly disappointed with the purchase, as 2.0 was supposed to be the best of what S&W is capable of making. I hope their customer service will stand by their product.

Just my two cents regarding this new offering.
 
First of all: the stippling. Smith&Wesson does say that stippling is aggressive. But they don't say that it is this AGGRESSIVE. For me the gun is painful to hold; feels like rough sand-paper and it is even worse when trying to move the slide back or moving my fingers to press magazine release button.
Second: Back-straps are not flush with the handle around the edges, which creates the same painful friction as my first complaint above.
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Forgive my question, but why on earth did you buy a gun that hurt your hand to hold? While some things are difficult to determine until you actually put some rounds through a gun, the way it feels in your hand is pretty easy to judge in ten seconds, in my experience.


Larry
 
Sorry to hear this

But i hear their customer service is astounding, they should take care of you. I havent seen or handled one, so i cannot comment my opinion, i did however own a M&P40 with the worst trigger i have ever experienced on anything, real firearm, pellet gun, paintball gun, airsoft gun,you name it, was horrible. That gun got sold after about 400rds down the tube.

The M&P40 i had would send the slide home if i slammed a loaded mag in it, which i didnt like, although overall it felt well made and was pretty ergonomic.

I think they are just too new, havent been thoroughly tested or proven yet. Give them a year ur two and smith should work the kinks out.
 
True. That's just an observation for other people; my plan was to use a rubber grip. Biggest complaints are obviously with failures to fire.
 
Agree on the trigger as well. There is too much travel before it gets to the break. I prefer my Glock's trigger which feels shorter and more 'substantial'

On the other hand one thing that MP 1.0 users complained about was the reset which is very noticeable on 2.0. So Smith definitely improved with that feature.
 
a variety of Federal and Hornady(no budget ammo for me). No I didn't lube as I didn't see a need to. The gun is plenty oiled from factory already.
 
I would clean and oil it using proper lubricants... Then try again.

Are you shooting hollow points? Its good to test a carry load, but not many actually shoot only HP ammo.

I ask, because I don't recall seeing FMJ hornady stuff on the shelves, but I could be mistaken. Also, sometimes a pistol does not like certain ammo, try a different brand.

Not all cheaper ammo is junk BTW.


If, after a good cleaning, and another range trip with some FMJ, it is still not running well, call SW and talk to them.


One question I have that I can not find an answer to...

What is that little tab right in front of the slide release on the left side of the pistol?

It wasn't on the first one.


I like the ergos of my M&Ps, and I improved the triggers, so I have no complaints.

Reports on the stippling have been love or hate kind of thing. A little 500 grit sandpaper may take down the roughness.
 
the tab is part of slide release mechanism and doesn't itself move.

Ergonomics is really the reason I'm trying MP. Glocks are great guns but the angle of the grip is getting to me; really uncomfortable to hold.
 
Too bad you had troubles out of the box. Hopefully after following the suggestions above it will perform as it should.

I switched to M&P for ergonomic reasons several years ago. I hope to acquire a 2.0 version soon as I have been wanting another handgun and was pleased to see S&W come out with this new revision.

Good luck and let us know how it all works out.
 
At the range with new SW M&P 2.0

I think they are just too new, havent been thoroughly tested or proven yet. Give them a year ur two and smith should work the kinks out.
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I haven't seen anything that has changed that seems so fundamental as to have changed the reliability, but I suppose it's possible. The original M&P has been out for some time now.



One question I have that I can not find an answer to...



What is that little tab right in front of the slide release on the left side of the pistol?



It wasn't on the first one.
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I can't confirm this, but one review I watched stated this is to prevent the slide release from being triggered when inserting a magazine.





Every company can make a lemon. Call S&W and let them know the issues you're having. They likely will ask if you tried cleaning and lubricating the pistol per the manual, however.
 
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I would strip it down and clean it before I even shot it(for my personal safety), you will be surprised sometimes what you will find in things mass produced.
I did have a chance to put my hands on the 2.0 yesterday at my local Academy, I do like the grip texture myself but the mush in the trigger before the break is just horrid. IMO the 2.0 shouldn't have been released with the trigger the way it is.
 
I actually don't have a problem with the original M&P's trigger. It does have a little more travel than a Glock, but I prefer the feel of the trigger safety on the M&P which makes up for it to me. Anyway, regarding the cycling issues. I would definitely try another type of ammo just in case. My M&P 40 full size and M&P 40 compact both run great on 99% of ammunition but neither will cycle Fiocchi truncated cone for some reason.
 
Honestly sounds like you should have cleaned it well before taking it to the range. Gentleman during my permit class had bought a new P226 and had the same issues with FTF. First question he was asked if he had cleaned it and the answer was a no. The RSO did a quick strip and clean and worked 100%.
 
I've never had an issue with the M&P triggers.

Is the 2.0 trigger any better/worse than the first model?
 
Definitly give it good cleaning and try it again before contacting S&W. I'm sure that will be one of the first questions they ask you.
 
I field strip, clean and inspect any/all weapons I buy before firing and I recommend that to all!

My Gen 1 M&P's have been flawless! Will be interesting to see what turns up with your gen2!
 
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...one review I watched stated [that the slide stop tab] is to prevent the slide release from being triggered when inserting a magazine.
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That makes sense considering that I've read some online grousing about the fact that an M&P "1.0" will automatically go into battery if the magazine is inserted smartly.

I actually like this feature, and yes, it's a feature rather than a bug; it's discussed in the owner's manual.
 
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