Assault weapon ban law hypothetical Q?

the second would be a huge class action lawsuit for just compensation of the conficated weapons. (The lawyers would win that one)
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"Just Compensation" is a non issue for a .gov more than willing to print paper money ad infinitum ..... to quote FDR, "It does not matter how much we borrow- we only owe it to ourselves."

I don't think any door is permanently closed, cause nothing's written in stone. I was taught a big lesson that I'll never forget, while watching the way the health care bill was pushed through in congress without the senate being given a chance to vote on it again. The older I get and the more I see the more disgusted and ill I become.
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The Constitution is supposed to be "set in stone", but when 1/2 the Supreme Court sees it as "evolving" and malleable, some even going so far as to cite foreign laws in deciding cases, then nothing is solid: The Law is what they say it is.
 
Did not the 2004 renewal of the AWB that failed left out the granddfather clause? If that was not it then I am sure another bill was proposed in Congress to exclude grandfathering. So confiscation is definitely lurking on the radar.

Hopefully we continue moving to more recognition of our gun rights, but the current admin had demonstrated that it will go far beyond the law unless reign in.

Vigilance is still warranted.
 
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while an Ex-Post Facto AWB is entirely possible, it is far from certain that such a law, even if it were to be enacted, would pass Judicial Review.

Heller pretty much closed the door on banning classes of weapons. Even if it were politically possible, I don't see a new AWB (at least one with any teeth) passing judicial muster.
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I wouldn't go quite that far. SCOTUS still, by all indications, seems to be OK with the NFA which, through heavy regulation, creates a de-facto ban on entire classes of weapons to all but those with large amounts of disposable income, which is exactly what it was designed to do ($200 was a ridiculously large tax in the 1930's and the Hughes Amendment has driven the prices of legal full-autos through the roof).

I do, however, think than an Ex-Post Facto confiscation scheme would likely push the current court over the edge in what they'd be willing to tolerate and that they would likely strike all or part of an AWB down if such a measure were included.
 
Did not the 2004 renewal of the AWB that failed left out the granddfather clause?
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There were two senate bills, S2109 and S2498: Both would have sunset in 2014. Neither was voted on.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:s2109:

The senate voted 52-47 to extend the AWB as an amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act. This energized senator Craig to ask the senate to kill the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act: This was done.

There were four or five different bills in the house addressing the extension of the AWB and "high capacity ammuntion feeding devices". One of these bills would have extended the AWB forever. None were ever voted on.

Speaker of the house Hastert refused to bring the AWB up for a floor vote. Had the vote been taken it would have passed the house. This would have motivated the US senate to do the same. We owe Hastert.
 
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Oh, would the president sign that way back when? Or would a current severe conservative canidate support such and signed it himself (if in that position).

Oh, snarky me and my memory. :mad:
 
In reality, taking todays environment into consideration, I don't see an Assault Weapon Ban making it out of the House or Senate for anyone's signature.
 
Kraig, come on - don't spoil our fun. What are we suppose to talk about - Zombies?

Remember the days when the Chinese were invading through California and Mexico?

However, I think you are correct.
 
Remember the days when the Chinese were invading through California and Mexico?
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Glenn, I thought that it was the Soviet-backed Cubans doing the invading?
Red Dawn just flashed though my pea brain.
 
Not to divert but we had folks who thought that the Chinese would load container ships with troops, disembark in Long Beach, CA. They would then come down I-10 to take our guns in TX.

The AWB was to stop us from meeting them at Van Horn for the climactic battle for the state.

Before the battle, we would all eat a biscuit and cheesy grits and save America and trees of the right height. Chuck Norris would lead us (having beaten the Cubans). Kid Rock would play the bag pipes I suppose as we charged them.

I'm terrible.
 
Texans would really fight the Chinese... for California?!

I'm form Oregon and I would say, good riddance, just keep all the politicians in the State when you do. Think how much cheaper boots, berets, HArbor Freight tools will be when Chinese can make them right there in California!

"It would be madness to invade Long Beach. Behind every marijuana plant would be a Californian with a multi-level marketing offer."
-- Admiral Xu
 
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