Arsenal?
- Thread starter NavyVet1959
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Any collector who has more guns and ammo he can comfortably carry and shoot clearly isn't planning on a murder spree.
I own eleven handguns and one .22 rifle. At last count I only had two hands, so at least nine handguns are surplus to murder-spree requirements.
Moreover those cover six different calibers from .22 to .45. I could limit myself to keeping a stock of 200 rounds in each caliber, but as the ammo isn't always on the shelves when I want it I tend to stock up when I can.
Why eleven handguns? I collect them out of interest and to shoot at the range.
I own eleven handguns and one .22 rifle. At last count I only had two hands, so at least nine handguns are surplus to murder-spree requirements.
Moreover those cover six different calibers from .22 to .45. I could limit myself to keeping a stock of 200 rounds in each caliber, but as the ammo isn't always on the shelves when I want it I tend to stock up when I can.
Why eleven handguns? I collect them out of interest and to shoot at the range.
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
kraigwy said:
I grew up with a kid whose father had a psuedo-vault built into their house. The door was hidden like something out of the movies. I don't know the exact size of the room but it was pretty good sized. 10x10, I'd say, at least.
It was filled, and I mean that literally, with guns. Mostly military-surplus. He had a cargo net strung on the ceiling. The net was piled with military-surplus guns. There was probably 100 in the net, or more, who knows. All 4 corners had the same, random, mostly military guns piled on top of each other and there were racks along the walls, filled. Parts of the walls had no racks, just guns leaning there against the walls and each other. Racks in the center were filled to capacity, 4 or 5 racks, almost wall to wall, with just enough on the sides and corners to get past.
Evan Thomas
Inactive
I think the term for that is "hoarder," not "collector." 
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
Indeed.
Oddly, I only ever saw him shoot one gun.
I don't recall (or never knew) the model but it was a modern, bolt action, scoped rifle that he used to shoot at woodchucks across the valley. I don't know if he ever hit one. They were a loooong way off. He never went to look or commented on it that I remember.
He also had a cannon. A very short barreled thing, welded to a car (type) coil spring that was set in a concrete block in the ground. You couldn't help but laugh when he fired it off. It was like those spring loaded playground rides... from hell in this case.
Oddly, I only ever saw him shoot one gun.
I don't recall (or never knew) the model but it was a modern, bolt action, scoped rifle that he used to shoot at woodchucks across the valley. I don't know if he ever hit one. They were a loooong way off. He never went to look or commented on it that I remember.
He also had a cannon. A very short barreled thing, welded to a car (type) coil spring that was set in a concrete block in the ground. You couldn't help but laugh when he fired it off. It was like those spring loaded playground rides... from hell in this case.
Lol. I've only started collecting a year and a half ago and so far have 10 guns and about a 1000 rds of most calibers I own and now everyone and their mother is gonna come to my place when zombies attack 
they'll think I'm waging a war or something if I actually get my hands on everything I want
they'll think I'm waging a war or something if I actually get my hands on everything I wantRomeo 33 Delta
New member
Brian ... now that's my kinda' guy! It's all to familiar to me now after 40+ years of serious collecting ... but I've shot nearly all of them ... some more often than others however.
johnwilliamson062
Moderator
I have a 22 revolver, 22 semi-auto, and considerably more 22lr than fingers and toes in my trunk right now. I am sure if I was pulled over and my vehicle searched for some reason the news would report "Assault weapons," "cache of ammunition," and "arsenal."
Go to the legal forum and read the findings in the Heller vs DC decision. Here is an excert
the Second Amendment has so far been read to protect only “a personal right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes, most notably for self-defense within the home.” McDonald, 130 S. Ct. at 3044. While one or two firearms may be necessary for such purposes, a large collection of weapons is not. The Constitution, in short, guarantees the right “to keep and bear arms,” not the right “to keep and bear an armory.” As an individual seeks to acquire more guns, he moves farther and farther away from the right to bear arms and closer toward the constitutionally unprotected goal of assembling a personal arsenal.
A lot of legalese to wade thru but it is interesting (and a bit scary) reading.
Seems they are using the terms interchangeably.
the Second Amendment has so far been read to protect only “a personal right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes, most notably for self-defense within the home.” McDonald, 130 S. Ct. at 3044. While one or two firearms may be necessary for such purposes, a large collection of weapons is not. The Constitution, in short, guarantees the right “to keep and bear arms,” not the right “to keep and bear an armory.” As an individual seeks to acquire more guns, he moves farther and farther away from the right to bear arms and closer toward the constitutionally unprotected goal of assembling a personal arsenal.
A lot of legalese to wade thru but it is interesting (and a bit scary) reading.
Seems they are using the terms interchangeably.
Mine
It's funny in the state where I live (CA) this would be labeled a arsenal and a menace to society.
(I'm a transplant and didn't grow up here)
In TX this would be labeled: A starter kit
FYI - As of Jan 1 2014; CA makes no distinction between a 50 year gun and a 5 day old gun; both have go through the DROS process/10-day waiting period. Unless of course you have a C&R license and a COE.
It's funny in the state where I live (CA) this would be labeled a arsenal and a menace to society.
(I'm a transplant and didn't grow up here)
In TX this would be labeled: A starter kit
FYI - As of Jan 1 2014; CA makes no distinction between a 50 year gun and a 5 day old gun; both have go through the DROS process/10-day waiting period. Unless of course you have a C&R license and a COE.
johnwilliamson062
Moderator
I was pulled over last night for a headlight out. I was definitely thinking to myself "God I hope they don't search my trunk." No 22s, but two 9mm and a small box filled with various ammo for a range trip. A couple bulk boxes of 22 and probably 500 rounds of 9mm in various loadings along with some rifle cartridges.
No problems with the stop though. I was on my way home from work and wearing my uniform, so that probably helped. Also, having a CHL seems to help with traffic stops in my area. Yes, I get quite a few for speeding.
No problems with the stop though. I was on my way home from work and wearing my uniform, so that probably helped. Also, having a CHL seems to help with traffic stops in my area. Yes, I get quite a few for speeding.
Spats McGee
Administrator
johnwilliamson062, your post reminds me of a range trip I had a couple of years ago. A buddy of mine who is an Arkansas State Trooper, and a range officer for the Arkansas State Police invited me to go to the ASP range one afternoon. We set a time and place to meet, and he said that I could follow him from there. I figured we'd shoot for most of the afternoon, so I loaded up, well, enough guns and ammo that nobody was going to get bored during the afternoon.
There was one small detail that he failed to tell me . . . . that the ASP shooting range is located on the grounds of one of our larger correctional facilities. As we rolled onto the grounds, his car was in front of mine, and I could see the car in front of him. It was an SUV of some type, and it ahd all four doors and the hatchback open, with officers crawling through it. In my mind's eye, I could imagine how those same officers were going to respond when I answered the question, "Do you have any weapons in here?" As you might imagine, those visions involved me face down, spread-eagled on the pavement.
Fortunately, my buddy knew the guards and just told them, "He's with me & we're headed to the range."
There was one small detail that he failed to tell me . . . . that the ASP shooting range is located on the grounds of one of our larger correctional facilities. As we rolled onto the grounds, his car was in front of mine, and I could see the car in front of him. It was an SUV of some type, and it ahd all four doors and the hatchback open, with officers crawling through it. In my mind's eye, I could imagine how those same officers were going to respond when I answered the question, "Do you have any weapons in here?" As you might imagine, those visions involved me face down, spread-eagled on the pavement.
Fortunately, my buddy knew the guards and just told them, "He's with me & we're headed to the range."