Armed - and caught at it.
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Gunslinger
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Andrew, the one we sell is thirty bucks, including shipping. Sorry, there is no web site. Anyone interested may E-mail either myself or terridarri so as to not use band width on advertising.
It sounds as though Larry is getting far more enjoyment from his than his wife is.
She may decide to hide it. 
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Gunslinger
It sounds as though Larry is getting far more enjoyment from his than his wife is.
She may decide to hide it. ------------------
Gunslinger
Kelly McWethy
New member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
Dennis, it appears that Action-Direct sells something very similar to what you described ...[/quote]
By the way, I am trying to sell one of these if anyone is interested in it. The holster is sized for the Glock 26/27, Kahr MK series sized pistols.
It just didn't work for me... too much trouble to reach the gun if I needed it.
Dennis, it appears that Action-Direct sells something very similar to what you described ...[/quote]
By the way, I am trying to sell one of these if anyone is interested in it. The holster is sized for the Glock 26/27, Kahr MK series sized pistols.
It just didn't work for me... too much trouble to reach the gun if I needed it.
George Hill
Staff Alumnus
Great thread!
paratrooper
New member
It would seem that if you are not comfortable carrying a concealed weapon it will show in your movements . My brother packs with an ankle rig . He does not give it a second thought and it is very hidden .
I would think it's kinda like talking on the C.B. radio . I drove long haul for about a million years and I could ALWAYS tell a trucker from someone in a four wheeler . The trucker is talking to ME . The car driver is talking to the mike . Same with the gun . If you are overly aware of it it will be like the suit you wear once a year . It fits but it just don't "fit." You ain't comfy in it and it will show .
The cop that don't like ccw will tip his hand . If he asks you if you are carrying you must say yes and then ask him what part of what type of weapon he saw . If he just saw a bulge he has been working vice WAY TOO LONG !!!
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TOM
SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA
I would think it's kinda like talking on the C.B. radio . I drove long haul for about a million years and I could ALWAYS tell a trucker from someone in a four wheeler . The trucker is talking to ME . The car driver is talking to the mike . Same with the gun . If you are overly aware of it it will be like the suit you wear once a year . It fits but it just don't "fit." You ain't comfy in it and it will show .
The cop that don't like ccw will tip his hand . If he asks you if you are carrying you must say yes and then ask him what part of what type of weapon he saw . If he just saw a bulge he has been working vice WAY TOO LONG !!!
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TOM
SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA
FUD,
Thanks for the tip about Action-Direct.
Yes, my homespun rig is very similar but I developed my rig on my own.
- Bellybands don’t work for me. I already have too much belly!
- I don’t have a strap holding the handgun in place. Doing CPR while wearing
my rig proved to me a strap was not needed. Also, unlike a LEO, Security
Officer, or a bouncer, I’m too old and crippled up to tussle. I will avoid, ignore,
walk away, whatever - until I’m trapped or decide my armed intervention is
necessary or unavoidable. But I no longer use force. (sigh) Sadly, for me, it
has become an “all or nothing” situation.
- I believe Action-Direct is missing an important feature - balance.
If you only have the handgun under one arm you have a bulge which does not
match the other side of the body. I solved that problem by adding the two
magazines under my right arm. Therefore, both sides of the body appear
symmetrical.
By wearing a size larger shirt over my (ahem) portly frame, the bulges appear
equal and natural to most observers.
- I agree with Action-Direct on the suspenders. Otherwise, to support the
weight of the handgun (even without the extra magazines), I must tighten the
bellyband so much it is quite uncomfortable for me.
- I notice Action-Direct crosses the suspenders across the back. I like that
idea and will have to try it!
- Final note. The only velcro I use is to hold the bellyband - nothing on the
holster. I can not draw the handgun very quickly - but I can draw without a
single sound.
I *do* wish I had seen the Action-Direct outfit before I went through all the
trial and error work on my rig. Thanks again for the tip!
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Jeff,
There are times I am unarmed. For example:
- From time to time I must frequent various government offices - places
where our bureaucrats (perhaps with good reason) apparently are afraid of
common citizens. No guns allowed. In some places, not even a penknife....
- More frequently, I teach evenings at local schools, you know, places where
our federal government has created free-fire zones for the benefit of cowards
and misfits who wish to express themselves by shooting children and teachers.
After all, I have been required to spend several hundred dollars to enjoy a
small portion of my natural, God-given, Constitutionally-guaranteed Right to
bear arms. I must be careful not to offend those who can take away that
“privilege”.
Naturally I should rejoice in this conversion of a free Right to an expensive
privilege because the previous governor of Texas would not even permit
citizens to vote on the issue. [sarcasm] Gee, I feel SO free!
[/sarcasm]
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Lastly, for the ladies....
I helped a tall rather busty but high-breasted lady develop a system using a
bellyband that worked for her. She carries a small Glock 9mm (I forget the
model number) in a bellyband just below her breasts.
This would not work for a shorter woman and it has a very dangerous
shortcoming. When she is in a car, the shoulder belt passes over the handgun.
In a severe collision, I am sure the handgun would increase dramatically the
risk of serious injuries.
I try to avoid small-of-the-back holsters for similar risks - in this case, to the
spine.
Because of women’s build, stature, and manner of dress, it is more of a
problem to hide a significant handgun on the person. Furthermore, purses,
briefcases, etc. can be wrested from one’s grasp unexpectedly. So if anyone
has some good advice for the ladies, how about starting a thread on the
subject.
Thanks for the tip about Action-Direct.
Yes, my homespun rig is very similar but I developed my rig on my own.
- Bellybands don’t work for me. I already have too much belly!
- I don’t have a strap holding the handgun in place. Doing CPR while wearing
my rig proved to me a strap was not needed. Also, unlike a LEO, Security
Officer, or a bouncer, I’m too old and crippled up to tussle. I will avoid, ignore,
walk away, whatever - until I’m trapped or decide my armed intervention is
necessary or unavoidable. But I no longer use force. (sigh) Sadly, for me, it
has become an “all or nothing” situation.
- I believe Action-Direct is missing an important feature - balance.
If you only have the handgun under one arm you have a bulge which does not
match the other side of the body. I solved that problem by adding the two
magazines under my right arm. Therefore, both sides of the body appear
symmetrical.
By wearing a size larger shirt over my (ahem) portly frame, the bulges appear
equal and natural to most observers.
- I agree with Action-Direct on the suspenders. Otherwise, to support the
weight of the handgun (even without the extra magazines), I must tighten the
bellyband so much it is quite uncomfortable for me.
- I notice Action-Direct crosses the suspenders across the back. I like that
idea and will have to try it!
- Final note. The only velcro I use is to hold the bellyband - nothing on the
holster. I can not draw the handgun very quickly - but I can draw without a
single sound.
I *do* wish I had seen the Action-Direct outfit before I went through all the
trial and error work on my rig.
Thanks again for the tip!-----
Jeff,
There are times I am unarmed. For example:
- From time to time I must frequent various government offices - places
where our bureaucrats (perhaps with good reason) apparently are afraid of
common citizens. No guns allowed. In some places, not even a penknife....
- More frequently, I teach evenings at local schools, you know, places where
our federal government has created free-fire zones for the benefit of cowards
and misfits who wish to express themselves by shooting children and teachers.
After all, I have been required to spend several hundred dollars to enjoy a
small portion of my natural, God-given, Constitutionally-guaranteed Right to
bear arms. I must be careful not to offend those who can take away that
“privilege”.
Naturally I should rejoice in this conversion of a free Right to an expensive
privilege because the previous governor of Texas would not even permit
citizens to vote on the issue. [sarcasm] Gee, I feel SO free!
[/sarcasm]
-----
Lastly, for the ladies....
I helped a tall rather busty but high-breasted lady develop a system using a
bellyband that worked for her. She carries a small Glock 9mm (I forget the
model number) in a bellyband just below her breasts.
This would not work for a shorter woman and it has a very dangerous
shortcoming. When she is in a car, the shoulder belt passes over the handgun.
In a severe collision, I am sure the handgun would increase dramatically the
risk of serious injuries.
I try to avoid small-of-the-back holsters for similar risks - in this case, to the
spine.
Because of women’s build, stature, and manner of dress, it is more of a
problem to hide a significant handgun on the person. Furthermore, purses,
briefcases, etc. can be wrested from one’s grasp unexpectedly. So if anyone
has some good advice for the ladies, how about starting a thread on the
subject.
Ragin Cajun
New member
Second to the thread on lady's carry. My wife and daughter will need the info.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paratrooper:
I would think it's kinda like talking on the C.B. radio . I drove long haul for about a million years and I could ALWAYS tell a trucker from someone in a four wheeler . The trucker is talking to ME . The car driver is talking to the mike .
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You can't stereotype like that. You would never, ever know that I was a car driver just by hearing me talk on the radio. I never drove a truck but have been talking on the radio longer than most truck drivers today have been driving. It's second nature to me.
I would think it's kinda like talking on the C.B. radio . I drove long haul for about a million years and I could ALWAYS tell a trucker from someone in a four wheeler . The trucker is talking to ME . The car driver is talking to the mike .
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You can't stereotype like that. You would never, ever know that I was a car driver just by hearing me talk on the radio. I never drove a truck but have been talking on the radio longer than most truck drivers today have been driving. It's second nature to me.
Dennis, Glad that I could be of help with regard to Action-Direct. Just as a further tip, the people there seem to be very friendly and are willing to bend over backwards for the customer. I was interested in a slightly different belly band and the guy said that if I order two or three of them, they would make the modifications that I was interested in at no extra charge. You may want to look into if they could do something with regards to having a mag holder on the other side. Regards, FUD.
(Correia still bothering his wife)
"Can you see it now Honey?"
"No."
"What about if I do this?"
"No!"
"How about this?"
"Get off of the kitchen table Larry!"
"How about if I turn this way."
"Your not flexible enough to do that in real life!"
"What about this? Ouch hey..."
"AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!" (Correia is choked into submission)
"Can you see it now Honey?"
"No."
"What about if I do this?"
"No!"
"How about this?"
"Get off of the kitchen table Larry!"
"How about if I turn this way."
"Your not flexible enough to do that in real life!"
"What about this? Ouch hey..."
"AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!" (Correia is choked into submission)
I'm going to have to agree with RikW this time. Wow imagine that. LEO's don't go around checking for printing. I carry all the time and I don't worry about printing, I don't check myself in the mirror or have my wife check me. I carry my Officers .45 in a Wild bill's concealment special. Or my Bodygaurd in a pocket holster. I wear Tee shirts (white), and Khaki's or Jeans in the summer, and you don't have to look very hard to see that I'm armed. The guns are always covered, thus they meet the criteria of being concealed set forth in the MD annotated code. If a cop has ever noticed that I was armed, I've never been stopped for it. The point is that I really don't go to great lengths to hide the fact that I'm armed. I have a permit to carry and the weapon is concealed. If someone dosn't like it (LEO or otherwise) too bad.
Arrell
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Arrell
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Hey, Futo, I thought we weren't gonna go there...!
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I'm with George-- GREAT THREAD!
The mindset of your concealed carry is important; we must balance the conscious responsibility that we must carry with us with the purposeful natural inattention to it. Both are a function of responsibility.
I cringe when I heare folks say they "forgot they were carrying." Sure, with a sub-compact in a comfortable setup, it's very possible, but part of the responsibility is that you MUST keep in your mindset that you are armed.
Along with that, though, goes the necessity to keep this fact completely to yourself. Concealment is SO very necessary, and not only because of some law. By keeping it concealed, the bad guy never knows. The nervous good guy can't give your status away. You blend in. You're not the instant target. There is sometimes the childish urge to let people know we are armed. This must absolutely be quelled. If it cannot be suppressed, DO NOT CARRY.
The whole of it is mindset. Are you ready?
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L.P.
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I'm with George-- GREAT THREAD!
The mindset of your concealed carry is important; we must balance the conscious responsibility that we must carry with us with the purposeful natural inattention to it. Both are a function of responsibility.
I cringe when I heare folks say they "forgot they were carrying." Sure, with a sub-compact in a comfortable setup, it's very possible, but part of the responsibility is that you MUST keep in your mindset that you are armed.
Along with that, though, goes the necessity to keep this fact completely to yourself. Concealment is SO very necessary, and not only because of some law. By keeping it concealed, the bad guy never knows. The nervous good guy can't give your status away. You blend in. You're not the instant target. There is sometimes the childish urge to let people know we are armed. This must absolutely be quelled. If it cannot be suppressed, DO NOT CARRY.
The whole of it is mindset. Are you ready?
, L.P.
Anyone have any good ideas about how I can conceal my Glock 21?
I think I'm going to buy myself a Glock 19, or maybe a G30, for those purposes. The G36 is just too hard to find. The only drawback to the G30 is that the slide is the same width as the G21, which is to say THICK.
Time to talk to "the boss" about a layaway.
Anyone else out there carry a G19? It seems to me that it ought to be small enough to put away (I'm a BIG guy too, Dennis. About 6'3" and 275-280) but still provide a good sight radius should I need to pop a perp at a little distance. And I like the idea of a rig with a couple of extra mags on the other side. (SIGH) If only those 15-round STANDARD CAPACITY magazines weren't so doggone expensive!
My biggest problem is that the XXL shirts are JUST RIGHT, not a little too big!
I think I'm going to buy myself a Glock 19, or maybe a G30, for those purposes. The G36 is just too hard to find. The only drawback to the G30 is that the slide is the same width as the G21, which is to say THICK.
Time to talk to "the boss" about a layaway.
Anyone else out there carry a G19? It seems to me that it ought to be small enough to put away (I'm a BIG guy too, Dennis. About 6'3" and 275-280) but still provide a good sight radius should I need to pop a perp at a little distance. And I like the idea of a rig with a couple of extra mags on the other side. (SIGH) If only those 15-round STANDARD CAPACITY magazines weren't so doggone expensive!
My biggest problem is that the XXL shirts are JUST RIGHT, not a little too big!