Are Night Sights Worth The Extra $$ ?

Thanks for the replies gentlemen. On Friday the LGS had 2 Kahr P380s, one with night sights and one without. This afternoon they only had the one without so that is what I walked out with. :) The replies pointing out that on a mouse/carry gun the night sights would be superfluous convinced me so if they still had the other one I would have gotten the standard pistol anyhow but I didn't have to make the choice.
 
I believe they are... I have them for most of my 45 ACPs and intend to get one for the lastone...
I will not have one for my Gold Cup.


Yor are better off haveing it and not needing it... than needing it and not haveing it
 
On a side note, lasers are an awesome way to practice your trigger pull. Just turn it on and point it at a wall 10 feet away and do some dry fire excersizes. The trick is to make the dot not move will pulling and releasing the trigger. It really works wonders.
 
Night sights are for tactical ninjas.
They also have a finite life, being tritium powered.
If it is that dark, how are you going to see the target?
If it is light enough to see the target, why do you need night sights?
Are your eyes even sensitive to the light output of the sights?
 
Let us know how you like that Kahr. I've got a CW9 and PM9 and they're both very good. If the P380 had been available when I was looking at .380s, I'd have tried one out.
 
I believe a good flashlight or pistol mounted light is a much better option than night sights. I've always thought night sights seem to attract my eyes to the gun when I'm aiming in the dark rather than simply just helping me aim. In other words they're just an expensive and uneeded add-on IMO.
 
Personally the advantage night sights give me are well worth the $100 to me.

If the first shot blinds you (the BG will be blinded also), then I guess that first shot is very important. A hundred bucks seems like cheap assistance towards that goal.

Don Glock wrote:

night sites aren't necessary for me, considering if i need to use my gun to save my life, i'll have about a half second to draw and fire. i practice this point shooting drill. the chances that i need to take an aimed, precise shot at night is about the same as winning the lottery

hmmm folks spend a hundred bucks on the lottery. I reckon even if I benefit only at those odds, I'd prefer to have the night sights under that scenario. I'd hate to lose my life because I was too cheap to buy night sights.

The S&W M&P 340CT has XS sights, night sights and a laser sight. It is my favorite pocket revolver. I have a flash light and motion detection lights. I don't see a problem having too many light sources.
 
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I'm considering another mouse gun and the night sights add approximately another hundred bucks. I have them on one pistol but TBH I've yet to fire a pistol in the dark.

A friend told me that once there is a muzzle flash you won't see them anyhow .... is that accurate ? Anyhow, am I better off with them or is it an unnecessary expense ? TIA.

Personally, I think night sights are well worth the cost.

I qualified with my off duty G30 SF with no night sights last Spring. We have day and night qualification and have to fire from 3 to 25 yards. Only out to 15 yards at night however.

Although I still qualified, I later had Glock brand night sights installed on the gun.

I felt much more confident being able to see the sights in the dark!
 
Mouse Guns-No, Night Sights-Yes!....

I'm not sure why you'd want to carry a "mouse gun" for protection let alone get custom night sights.
If you buy or get a .380acp+ caliber sidearm, fixed 3 dot night sights are a smart move. Approx 80-85% of lethal force incidents in the US take place in lowlight.
As for the muzzle flash or smoke distorting the front sight, it depends on the round or the pistol design. Some rounds are produced to have reduced muzzle flashes. Lead rounds create more gunsmoke & carbon when discharged.
 
During twilight or low light conditions it is possible that you can have enough light to clearly see the targets but not enough light to pick up your sights. Night sights work well in that situation.

When a target is dimly or indirectly lit in darkness (as when you are shining a flashlight in the general direction of the target and the target is being illuminated by "scatter" from the ground/ceiling/walls/etc. as opposed to the main beam of the flashlight) then you may be able to clearly see the target but you may have difficulty picking up standard sights.
 
Whatever firearm you are using can benefit from night sights. They work well in low light situations. They give you a clear sight picture and allow quick target aquisition. I look over the sights when I shoot at self defense ranges, focusing on the target and letting my eyes line up the sights peripherally. That task is quite easy and natural using the night sights in darkness. I like night sights. The tritium variety will last about twelve years on average.

The term "mousegun" is, I think, a dangerous, and silly, metaphor. Any firearm will kill when used accurately. That term was coined by an arrogant, self proclaimed expert, who's marketing skills far outweighed his experience. It is parroted by those who also have no idea.
 
If I could afford to do so, all of my pistols would have both night sights and Crimson Trace lasers.

Something about having and not needing > needing and not having....sound familiar?

In the mean time, I'm working on it. :)
 
night sights

Everyone has a point, no way denying it.

The important thing is your weapon sights are the mean to acquire your target, even if your weapon lacked at all any post or such, you would have to find the vector that aligns the barrel of your weapon with the intended target, that is until someone finds bullets with a mind of their own, ( not impossible, we're not there yet though).

Important points:
1.-People who have some type of night sights were able to find their weapon faster in the dark. They don't have to "remember", they just go for it.
bigjack59 brings a very important point, peripheral sight during the night or in the dark works completely different than during the day, so acquiring a target in the dark is "different" but you'll still need to know "where' the sights are.

2.-Night sights might not save your life but they are mighty dandy in low light situations, you might not conscientiously "see" them but they register in your brain:
Here on the left a luminescent material, on the right a plain orange color, they look the same to ou sight because the presence of light:
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The same two pieces only in a more dim environment:
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Here is when the real advantage of a luminescent sight system becomes evident, we may pose the question: Am i gonna need them at all? The answer could be, "Maybe never" but if the time comes, you just imagine the circumstances yourself, you'll be glad you had them all along, yes?

3.-Leaving scopes and red dots completely aside, the options are less than a handful, there is tritium and there are luminescent materials like Glow-on,
none of them is perfect, but, what is?

here some luminescent dots, made with the self adhesive material by glow-on.com, next to some 7.62x54r rounds:
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4.- If during a challenge with an attacker there is not enough illumination who do you think has the advantage position?
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5.- Visibility is basically the most important point, is hard, if not impossible for people who use to use their eyes for everything to use of anything unless they ca see it ( exception made of visually impaired individuals who use a completely different set of skills to do exactly the same).

headbangerJD, brings a very important point too, you cannot shoot anything you can't see, so the addition of a small tactical light is necceary under certain circumstances:
Here a combination of both night sights and flash light:
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I am not going to argue the merits of a specific material, nothing is perfect, there are not perfect solutions, only perfectly adequate solutions.
Before I and my minions developed Glow-On I had tritium on a couple of pistols but as my collection grew bigger, I found less and less sets for things like old revolvers, rifles and shotguns, and some new pistols like my new PF9:
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In all truth the orange material we are testing we think is a good "day sights" material, it needs very little light to be activated, is super bright in dark conditions, but the glow last a few minutes, meaning it will be visible during the day weather you go into the basement, under a tree, under a car, go inside your garage etc.
The orange is not for sale as of yet, we are beta testing it and we need feedback, so for the purchase of a single vial, ($13.31 including s&h) we are shipping the single 1.5 ml vial good for several pistols, or fishing lures etc.(try this with tritium) plus an appreciation package consisting of a couple of strips and ten small 15mm x15mm for rear sights or a remote control etc.

We could argue, as I have, weather this system is good or not, a growing customer base has confirmed Glow-On is brighter than most of the stuff out there including tritium,( we are investigating those claims ), we think we have something good in hands, we want to share, but it doesn't come cheap.

However members of this forum who order the single vial option, please write on the instructions to seller form:
"A firing line member"
And my minions will include ten green dots and ten orange dots for you to evaluate.

Finally, before i overstay my welcome, to the question:
Are Night Sights Worth The Extra $$ ?
I'll answer with another question:
Can you afford not to have them?

If you guys are like me, who loves guns and has a collection, an affordable solution like Glow-On might be the answer, especially since I'm not a wealthy man and have to live under a budgets limitations.
 
Although you already bought the pistol...
I like night sights.
If I step out into my yard at night it would be possible for me to see a threat, but not regular sights.
Inside my house, I have automatic night lights in the hall, bedrooms (I have young kids) and I could easily see a threat (without a flashlight) but not regular sights.
You can rationalize all you want, but night sights make it easier to see your sights in low light conditions.
 
Of course learning to shoot your gun well is the most importaint thing. If you can see your target, then close your eyes, draw, and then open your eyes and see your front sight on the target, your doing pretty well. But when it comes down to it, night sights cant hurt, and they just might be exactly what you need someday. The idea that night sights are not worth the $100 depends on how comfortable you are with your stock sights, and how much money you have to work with.
I've found that night sights show up more than normal sights, even when there is still a good amount of light around. having a front sight thats glowing and standing out against the dark image of a handgun and what ever else is around can not be a bad thing.

My vote goes for night sights. They should last you close to 10 years, they can be "recharged" and I like a standard 3 dot sight picture anyway, so in my opinion you can lose. Even if they die out, and you never recharge them, you still have good solid 3 dot sights.
 
I've carried for over 5 years without them. I live in a rural area where there's a lot of unwanted varmints. I had dispatched several with a flashlight and the pistol, but always had trouble seeing the sights. I put Trijicon night sights on it a while back, and don't know why I didn't when I first started carrying. I feel that it in money well spent for what I use them for. I can hold a flashlight in one had and shoot with the other, and see the sights easily. I also carry a flashlight with me all the time. A good small carry-able LED light can give plenty light for night shooting.
 
I don't have night sights on any of my carry guns. I did specify them for my nightstand gun, for a number of reasons. First, it's likely I'll need that gun at night, and they really do make a difference in low light. You need to be able to see the sights to use them. Second, it makes it very easy to find and index the gun on my nightstand in the dark. I've tried grabbing other guns in my pitchdark bedroom and it's impossible. The glowing night sights let me find the gun and get my hand on it quickly. Personally, I think they're a waste on small pocket-sized guns and much prefer white outlines or the Big Dot front sight I have on my NAA Pug ...
 
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