Are New Shortages Coming?

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Hound Dog, it could very well be my area!
Everyone is related, everyone is pretty much cookie cutter versions of each other...
It's a drone mentality, what the neighbors do, they have to do as quickly as possible!

They think I'm completely crazy,
I have solar power, which REALLY ticks off the coal miner bunch, (none of their business),
I don't work a 7 to 5 job in a mine or factory, and that makes me 'Strange',
I actually aim guns before I pull the trigger, not just get half drunk then spray the general direction of a Target,
I don't hunt deer, which is a HUGE deal around here! If you own guns it's pretty well a requirement to deer hunt...
I'm not a fan of deer meat, and the wife treats them like pets and that makes us 'Strange'.

We throw out big gardens & home can, and almost no one around here does it anymore, or on a large scale.
We do it to get clean food, and to get exactly what we like!
Takes time, but saves money... I have wasted time, but I don't like to waste money.

We are the exception to the rule around here, no political posters in the yard, no worries about what the neighbors are doing or driving, no hard line opinions about much of anything, willing to listen and consider about anything.
Small actions make big changes, good things are built over time, wasted time is worse than wasted money, so we stay busy...

TV or facebag does nothing FOR us, so we ignore it, and that makes us 'Strange' since we don't know who the latest celebrity idiot is in the news.
With the exception of Tom Petty passing away, I'm a big Tom Petty fan, but when they talk about some rapper or trust fund brat (here today, gone today) doing something stupid, I don't even know who they are...

You guys are about the only version of 'Social Media' I participate in...
I don't care about being a twit, facebaging, or any of that other crap, and absolutely EVERYONE around here is addicted to that stuff, so I'm the strange one when they talk about it.

Maybe why I don't get caught up in hysteria, I do my own thinking and form my own opinions, I don't have them drip fed to me via collective insanity groups.
 
RC20 said:
Me, I go along with the Bump Fire ban. If anything proved that the machine gun ban (signed by a Republicans) had merit, Las Vegas certainly is it. Maybe not a popular view but I am a pragmatist. If it effectively turns a gun into a machine gun then its a machine gun.
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Careful in your logic, If the end result is all that matters semi auto's and magazine size where on the chopping block for similar reasons.

Im sure if such a ban comes to the floor it will pass right now though.. Looking within the gun community on the internet we are fractured and weak.

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I have always been a proponent that any new product should have a review board. Gets into rights vs privileges. I have talked to a number of gun owner and enthusiasts that now feel that gun ownership should be earned - previous die for the 2nd amendment folks. Why? Because they have seen the current generation of gun owners in action and it scares them all to bejuseus .
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Stocks like the Slide Fire actually have ATF approval letters.. for what ever that's worth.

The bill of rights was suppose to be acknowledgements of birthright not privileges given upon by some controlling entity like the government.

Those that support such measured should ask them selves if they would make the grade in an arbitrary test.. They probably think such "earning" would be to a level suitable for them selves.

Imagine if we did this with the 1a and reproductive permits.
 
MG, if there were CIVIL, open minded debates,
Just forget everything you *Think* you know and start from a clean sheet, I'd be glad to participate.

I'm NOT the guy that forgets the Constitution when taking which, if any, restrictions or bans are discussed.
I'm not the foaming mouthed second amendment type, Im not the arrogant radical left 'Ban Everything' type...
I'm willing to at least listen to any discussion or idea.

Clearly, high fire rate firearms are getting into the wrong hands and people are getting more crazy/bold because body counts are going way up...

370 Million lawfully purchased & owned firearms since 1968 in this country, more than one firearm for every man, woman & child in the country.
Reasonable estimate of 12 Billion rounds of ammunition in private hands,
And with technology you can 3D print a lower receiver or melt down beer cans for a billet and down load CNC programs to machine your own receiver.

Technology has rendered any type of complete firearms bans a moot point and only the crazy far left suggests differently...

I'm willing to come to the table before this gets even more out of hand than it already is...
Shortages & stockpiling, mass shootings are the symptoms, I'd like to address the actual causes in a constructive way... If I were smarter I'd have all the answers and some 'Miricle' fix, but I'm just an average guy that sees ugly things coming if we as an owners group don't address this...
 
Joe, the Constitution is rights GIVEN under the rule of law.
The pure genius of the US Constitution is it can be changed as circumstances change.

Our founding fathers couldn't have for seen mass production of firearms that can crank out 500 or 1,000 rounds a minute, and that's high velocity, not black powder and round balls.

They also couldn't imagine a Congress that gets $3.2 Billion to run the country,
But a lobby structure that dumps $77 Billion a year to corrupt the most well intended politicians.

They couldn't have possibly foretold a Congress with an approval rating of low teens, but a 95% reelection rate simply because of the money being g dumped into gerrymandering and campaigns from special interest.

They also couldn't have foreseen a population where less than half votes on even the most important elections, and would rather follow some celebrity idiot's brain leakage on Twitter or Facebook than actually keep up with what's going on in their own government...

The old saying, you get what you work for is true.
If they aren't willing to sit up and pay attention, you can't help the lazy & willfully ignorant...
 
. . . the Constitution is rights GIVEN under the rule of law.The pure genius of the US Constitution is it can be changed as circumstances change.
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This is simply wrong. The US Constitution is an enumeration of the powers that the people have chosen to grant to their government. Any "rights" not so given are reserved to the states, and if not given to the states via their own constitutions, they remain with the people. The Bill of Rights did not give us rights, it affirmed rights that we already possessed. In other words, in our system of government, the people start with ALL of the rights and then choose to grant some of them to the government. That is really the "pure genius of the US Constitution."
 
I spent the first 20 odd years of my life in Appalachia myself Jeep so enough said. I am old enough to remember the phantom blizzard of 77 which cleaned off every grocery store shelf in less than 4 hours. Then after all business's closed and sent their employees home and schools were let out early everyone sat home watching exactly zero inches of snow fall. Not so much as a single snowflake, talk about some weather forecasters with egg on their faces.

However my sister had enough canned soup and Spam in her pantry to last her for 10 years

On the stock thing I figure if it shoots like a full auto it is a full auto. Can't recall ever seeing one in any sanctioned shooting event and unless you are hunting a herd of rabid zombie deer I doubt it would serve a purpose in most hunting situations
 
Ok, this has gotten well and far afield of the purpose of the forum, so I think the best thing to do is simply close it.

There's lots of good discussion here, but it's best done in Law and Civil Rights, not in Handloading.
 
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