AR 15 defense ammo

gregnsara asked:
Just wondering what everyone's opinion is for the best AR15 defensive bullet to load?

There is none.

There is no such thing as a Universal "best" bullet, "best" load or "best" anything else. If I can do nothing else with this post, it would be to banish the very concept of "best" from your mind forever. What works "best" in one situation will not be "best" in another. You need to sit down, assess your vulnerabilities, assess what your rifle is cable of, assess what you want it to do and only after you have made these decisions, start pursuing a load to meet your own particular needs.

About 70 years ago, the Army decided the "best" load used a 55 grain bullet. About 30 years ago, they changed that to a 62 grain bullet. For them, the "best" changed with a changing environment.

In my own case, I optimized a 223/5.56 loading for the various Ruger Mini-14s my family owned at the time. It was a Hornady 60 grain Spire Soft Point or 60 grain Spire Hollow Point bullet over 20.3 gains of IMR-4198 powder intended for use under 200 meters (the longest unobstructed distance on the land we owned at the time).

Please note that when I developed this load, 20.3 grains of IMR-4198 was well-below a maximum load. Subsequent loading manuals now show this to be a load that is above Maximum Load. If you are developing a new load, PLEASE follow proper load development procedures and begin with the Starting Load from a current manual and work up incrementally from there.
 
I bought several thousand federal pilled 62gr fusion bullets awhile back. They have been tested on deer and coyote and perform real well. I load em behind a charge of h335 wanna say its 24grs.
 
bacardisteve said:
I bought several thousand federal pilled 62gr fusion bullets awhile back. They have been tested on deer and coyote and perform real well. I load em behind a charge of h335 wanna say its 24grs.
Have you by chance chronographed this load?
 
There's a school of legal thought that says use only standard velocity factory FMJ ammo in a defense gun.

That way, if the DA decides to prosecute you after you squeezed the trigger, he can't portray you to the local media and to the jury as some kind of wild-eyed gun nut who hand loaded and then laid-in-wait to fire off his home brew envelope-pushing super-lethal killer ammo designed and crafted to inflict maximum damage.
 
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rambo60 said:
1/9 is a faster twist.
Actually, didn't you mean to say it's a slower twist? ;)
1/7 = one full revolution of the bullet in 7 inches. Faster.
1/8 = one full revolution in 8 inches. medium.
1/9 = one full revolution in 9 inches, which will be slower.
 
62gr & 75gr Speer Gold Dot is my choice for defense ammo in my ARs.

Johnny's Reloading Bench has a great YouTube video on them with ballistics tests.

Sorry but I'm not sure how to embed a YouTube vids on this forum.

https://youtu.be/LZevnNZwseM
 
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Maybe not quite the same thing, but I have a recorded load of 62gr FMJ-BT with 24.5 grains H-335 that chronoed 2724 out of my BREN 805...if that helps at all.
 
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