Anyone with a blue book that could look up a few guns for me?

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A friend recently inherited a few guns and was trying to figure out what they were worth. The ones he inherited are,

A Winchester 1906 chambered for .22LR/Long/Short.

A Mossberg 45A.

A Remington 1857.

A Winchester 1895 that says 30 Gov't 06 on it. Is this the 30 Gov't aka 30-40 Krag these came in, or would it be the 30-06 Springfield we know today? Or something totally different?

If anyone has a current Blue Book and wouldn't mind looking these guns up for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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The .30 Gov't 06 = .30-06 Springfield.

The BBGV is (1) waaay behind the curve, when it comes to current values, and (2) doesn't take into account regional price fluctuations of supply/demand.

What it IS good for is (1) determining exactly what you have (Model, year, etc), and (2) the condition (the front of the book has many excellent representational pice of various "conditions")

A large consideration in estimating a value, besides the make, etc, would be it's current condition (compared to new, not simply "good"), it's exact model, and it's features and/or disclosure of any known defects like rust, dents, scratches, cracks, & alterations.


The best way to determine your gun's true value, besides putting them into a worldwide (www) guns-only auction, would be to surf ONLY sold/closed gun auctions to find out what somebody has actually recently paid for another example in like condition.

Please remember that an "opening bid", or unsold "prices" are not a value - they are simply whatever someone decides to ask for their firearm.



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The best way to determine your gun's true value, besides putting them into a worldwide (www) guns-only auction, would be to surf ONLY sold/closed gun auctions to find out what somebody has actually recently paid for another example in like condition.
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That's what I normally do as well, but when we tried to look his up we saw huge price fluctuations. For example some 1906's were going for $400 while others that looked almost identical were going for $1,200. It was really hard to get a feel for the true values, so we figured the Blue Book may give him a starting point.
 
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Were you looking at only "SOLD" prices - or asking prices ?

Nowhere in you list of his guns do I see any indication of "condition", barrel length, and exact model (besides a general model #, some have names) - all usually a prerequisite for evaluation, as noted above.



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I was looking at ones that had bids and actually sold. I ignored all of the ones with no bids.

That said, I've not personally seen the guns, only pictures he sent me. So I'm not 100% sure on the barrel lengths. All seem to be in good condition from the pictures and what he has said, but I know the BB lists several different conditions as well.
 
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Winchester 1906, .22LR/Long/Short.

M1906 (standard model) - $150(10%) to $800 (90%) to$2K(mint)

M1906 Expert - $225(10%) to $1200(95%)


Mossberg 45A. - $65(10%) to $175(100%)


Remington 1857. -

Insufficient info, but my WAG (going on the 1857 date) is that it's a Beals First Model Pocket Revolver, .31cal percussion 5-shot smooth cylinder w/oct bbl & 1-piece HR grip.
If so, then $300(10%) to $3K(95%); if not, please enlighten.



Winchester 1895, 30 Gov't 06 - (no model given)

Rifle - $500 (10%) to $4K (95%) - add 10% for a Deluxe, 25% for oct bbl, 15% for takedown.

Carbine - same as above, add 50% if US marked.

Musket - $600 (10%) to $5K (95%), add 15% if US marked.

NRA Musket - $800 (10%) to $4500(95%), add 30% if US marked.


I'm sure that the realized actual cash, changing hands in 2013, would differ.

(didja enjoy this trip to the dentist ? . ;) )




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Is this the 30 Gov't aka 30-40 Krag these came in, or would it be the 30-06 Springfield we know today?
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As others have said, this is the 30-06. There was also 30 Government '03, the parent cartridge to the 30-06. You were thinking of 30 US Army (aka 30 Army or 30 US), what we call 30-40 Krag. Easiest way to remember them, the 30 Army was so called because it was adopted by the Army, not the Navy or US Marine Corps (they were fighting with 6mm Lee Navy and 45-70, respectively). 30-03 was adopted by all armed forces (along with the new rifle that used it) in a government drive to standardize small arms, so it was called 30 Government-1903. When the cartridge was changed in 1906, it was called 30 Government-1906, or 30-06.

As far as the rifles, good prices are:
Win 1906- $450-$600

Mossberg 45A- $100

Winchester 1895- In general, these range from $600-$1500. Sure, there are variations that drastically increase the price. 30-06 was one of the more common chamberings, and the most prone to problems because of pressure and battering of locking lugs.
 
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