Anyone wanna see pics of my Zimbabwe Buff hunt?
- Thread starter Rich Lucibella
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Wildalaska
Moderator
Danie is a great guy, Ive met him altho cant afford to go over there..... Jim West was over hunting with him last year and had a wonderful experience, I know another fella that is heading over to hunt with him again.
Danie uses a lever rifle sometimex btw.
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Rich Lucibella
Staff
Great toon, Matt!
Guns have been located and they're enroute now.
Wild-
Glad Jim got together with Danie. Danie and Engonyameni have taken some heat here (from those who have never hunted there) as being a "high fence game ranch". You often hear this of RSA hunts (when you're not in RSA) and I always have to chuckle. For instance, Mokore is as varied and wild as it gets for game. A million acres but it's still fenced. I would never think to call it a "Game Ranch" in the derogatory sense that others use the term about RSA hunting opportunities. Someday, I'll figure out the distinction. I suspect it has to do with whether you're in South Africa or not in South Africa at the time.
Rich
Guns have been located and they're enroute now.
Wild-
Glad Jim got together with Danie. Danie and Engonyameni have taken some heat here (from those who have never hunted there) as being a "high fence game ranch". You often hear this of RSA hunts (when you're not in RSA) and I always have to chuckle. For instance, Mokore is as varied and wild as it gets for game. A million acres but it's still fenced. I would never think to call it a "Game Ranch" in the derogatory sense that others use the term about RSA hunting opportunities. Someday, I'll figure out the distinction. I suspect it has to do with whether you're in South Africa or not in South Africa at the time.
Rich
Wildalaska
Moderator
Rich..glad to see you got your guns.
The best reccomendation for Danie is from Col Cooper...good enough for him, should be good enough for anyone.
One of our customers is headed over there for baboons...he has a baboon fetish...since you cant use ARs over there (guess them baboons are long range runarounders) hes taking one of those new reminton 223 pumps (that use AR mags) with a 16.5 inch custom muzzlebraked fluted barrel and a Nightforce 5.5-15 scope......yikes
WildimgoingtobuyanotherblaserAlaska
The best reccomendation for Danie is from Col Cooper...good enough for him, should be good enough for anyone.
One of our customers is headed over there for baboons...he has a baboon fetish...since you cant use ARs over there (guess them baboons are long range runarounders) hes taking one of those new reminton 223 pumps (that use AR mags) with a 16.5 inch custom muzzlebraked fluted barrel and a Nightforce 5.5-15 scope......yikes
WildimgoingtobuyanotherblaserAlaska
9-13-2006
“Jeff Cooper is in extremely grave condition at this hour. Previously hospitalized for possible surgery, he suffered a heart attack and was revived in the hospital. The heart muscle suffered serious damage.
It was posted at 19:28 hours EDT.”
Col. Cooper
C/O
Gunsite Academy, Inc.
2900 W. Gunsite Road
Paulden, AZ 86334-4301
USA
He is ina Hospital last I heard in Phoenix, But this would probably get it to his family.
Latest is that he is fading fast.
Prayers are in order.
S
“Jeff Cooper is in extremely grave condition at this hour. Previously hospitalized for possible surgery, he suffered a heart attack and was revived in the hospital. The heart muscle suffered serious damage.
It was posted at 19:28 hours EDT.”
Col. Cooper
C/O
Gunsite Academy, Inc.
2900 W. Gunsite Road
Paulden, AZ 86334-4301
USA
He is ina Hospital last I heard in Phoenix, But this would probably get it to his family.
Latest is that he is fading fast.
Prayers are in order.
S
Rich Lucibella
Staff
Soc-
Last word I have as of 2 days ago was that he was sent home.
My info may be dated and he may be back in the hospital. In any case, wherever he is now, he remains an Icon; he stands for Pure Truth and Honesty in hunting reports.
This is The Man that got me into hunting in the first place; having invited me to join his party on his 80th birthday Africa hunt. He taught me the importance of the Journals that now get me into trouble. He taught me the importance of recording, as a camera, the events, shooting positions, distances, loads and results leading up to and culminating in The Shot. He personally dictated the list of books that I needed to read before hunting Africa: Ruark, Hemingway, Sir Percy Fitzpatrick, Daniel Streeter....even Capstick. I read them all.
It's because of Jeff that I insist on absolute honesty in our hunting reports. It's because of Jeff that my successes are mentioned in two lines, while my failures are recorded in two pages (for the mouth breathers to thump their chests over). I thank Heaven he introduced me to the endeavor prior to all the "He was dead on the first shot; I only shot him three more times as a coup de grace" hunters I've since met. And, believe me, there are far too many of them out there for the amount of oxygen on this planet.
Cooper has given this Community more than it deserves. On the day he lays his head down to final rest, it is not he who will be diminished.
Rich
Last word I have as of 2 days ago was that he was sent home.
My info may be dated and he may be back in the hospital. In any case, wherever he is now, he remains an Icon; he stands for Pure Truth and Honesty in hunting reports.
This is The Man that got me into hunting in the first place; having invited me to join his party on his 80th birthday Africa hunt. He taught me the importance of the Journals that now get me into trouble.
He taught me the importance of recording, as a camera, the events, shooting positions, distances, loads and results leading up to and culminating in The Shot. He personally dictated the list of books that I needed to read before hunting Africa: Ruark, Hemingway, Sir Percy Fitzpatrick, Daniel Streeter....even Capstick. I read them all. It's because of Jeff that I insist on absolute honesty in our hunting reports. It's because of Jeff that my successes are mentioned in two lines, while my failures are recorded in two pages (for the mouth breathers to thump their chests over). I thank Heaven he introduced me to the endeavor prior to all the "He was dead on the first shot; I only shot him three more times as a coup de grace" hunters I've since met. And, believe me, there are far too many of them out there for the amount of oxygen on this planet.
Cooper has given this Community more than it deserves. On the day he lays his head down to final rest, it is not he who will be diminished.
Rich
Agreed. Cooper was a giant. His influence has spread, in ways both flagrant and subtle, all over our sport. We'll all be poorer for losing him.
I wish someone would pick up his crusade to make Medal of Honor recipients exempt from Federal Income taxes, given that they have more than paid their way in the world.
I wish someone would pick up his crusade to make Medal of Honor recipients exempt from Federal Income taxes, given that they have more than paid their way in the world.
Johnny Guest
Moderator in Memoriam
Rich Lucibella - -
Thank you.
Thanks for this excellent thread, and for all your reports from the field. For sharing your priceless experiences in a place I'll never be able to experience. Thanks for the forthrightness --brutal honesty-- we've come to expect from you. For having the determination to try and make your African experience your own, and doing it in your own way.
I cannot offer proper thanks for all your contributions to the field of firearms knowledge, responsible firearms ownership and use, and to the cause of American liberty. They are too broad to cover here.
I've previously offered my gratitude for your generosity. I've shared your hospitality, your food, your spirits, ammo, transportation . . . And your conversation and companionship.
And now additional thanks are in order. Your few paragraphs above acknowledge some of what we all owe to Jeff Cooper. I'm happy to have known him, to have studied with him, learned from him, and enjoyed his hospitality . He's easily among the top ten men I respect most in the world. But, great as is my affection and respect, I could not express our debt to him nearly so well as you have. Thank you for those words you wrote.
In the weeks or months to come, hundreds of those he's influenced will eulogize Jeff. Somehow, I doubt any will do it with greater eloquence than you have.
Thanks again.
JPG
Thank you.
Thanks for this excellent thread, and for all your reports from the field. For sharing your priceless experiences in a place I'll never be able to experience. Thanks for the forthrightness --brutal honesty-- we've come to expect from you. For having the determination to try and make your African experience your own, and doing it in your own way.
I cannot offer proper thanks for all your contributions to the field of firearms knowledge, responsible firearms ownership and use, and to the cause of American liberty. They are too broad to cover here.
I've previously offered my gratitude for your generosity. I've shared your hospitality, your food, your spirits, ammo, transportation . . . And your conversation and companionship.
And now additional thanks are in order. Your few paragraphs above acknowledge some of what we all owe to Jeff Cooper. I'm happy to have known him, to have studied with him, learned from him, and enjoyed his hospitality . He's easily among the top ten men I respect most in the world. But, great as is my affection and respect, I could not express our debt to him nearly so well as you have. Thank you for those words you wrote.
In the weeks or months to come, hundreds of those he's influenced will eulogize Jeff. Somehow, I doubt any will do it with greater eloquence than you have.
Thanks again.
JPG
Rich - Steve (sm) to whom I chatted with today on phone - suggested I come read this thread.
Now I know why!! Fascinating, rivetting - and I admire your candour and honesty regarding your various shots. It must be so easy to make excuses, whereas you told it all totally up front.
Thank you for a remarkable adventure - as enjoyed from my computer screen.
Now I know why!! Fascinating, rivetting - and I admire your candour and honesty regarding your various shots. It must be so easy to make excuses, whereas you told it all totally up front.
Thank you for a remarkable adventure - as enjoyed from my computer screen.
"Col. Cooper passed this afternoon. Here is the note from Ed Head at GUNSITE:
At the request of the family it is my sad duty to report the passing of
our founder, Jeff Cooper. Jeff died peacefully at home this afternoon
while being cared for by his wife Janelle and daughter Lindy.
There will be a private internment at Gunsite by invitation, with a
public memorial service at the Whittington Center at a date to be
announced.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the family.
DVC,
Ed
Ed Head
Operations Manager
Gunsite Academy, Inc.
Go with God, Colonel... the gates of Valhalla stand open."
At the request of the family it is my sad duty to report the passing of
our founder, Jeff Cooper. Jeff died peacefully at home this afternoon
while being cared for by his wife Janelle and daughter Lindy.
There will be a private internment at Gunsite by invitation, with a
public memorial service at the Whittington Center at a date to be
announced.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the family.
DVC,
Ed
Ed Head
Operations Manager
Gunsite Academy, Inc.
Go with God, Colonel... the gates of Valhalla stand open."
Well, a little followup. Some friends went asian buffalo hunting. The guy paying used a .510 Linebaugh Maximum on a SCI sized asian buffalo, at 40 yards. He pulled the shot, and, the bullet went 5-6 feet, down the side, between the ribcage, and skin. Now we have VERY pissed off 1600 pound buffalo. Bullet was 525 grain cast, at over 1350, same stuff I shoot in my Max, all the time.
Back up rifle was also the shooters, who insisted upon using a lever action, .50 Alaskan. Bullet was 500 grains, at about 1700 fps. Hit slightly behind the heart, going through both lungs, since the bull was now moving, NOTHING. NO REACTION, except to keep on running.
The bull was later tracked, and finished, but, it took quite awhile.
The backup shooter originally brought a double barreled 450 nitro express 2, which, with 500 grain bullets, at 2150 fps, has a steady record of knocking the stuffings out of buffalo and bison, knocking them off their feet, enough to make the second barrel a finishing brain shot.
After much discussion with the principals, I'm rebarreling my CZ 550 to 416 Rigby, since I agree with Rich that that's REALLY the best place to start with buffalo rounds...
S
Back up rifle was also the shooters, who insisted upon using a lever action, .50 Alaskan. Bullet was 500 grains, at about 1700 fps. Hit slightly behind the heart, going through both lungs, since the bull was now moving, NOTHING. NO REACTION, except to keep on running.
The bull was later tracked, and finished, but, it took quite awhile.
The backup shooter originally brought a double barreled 450 nitro express 2, which, with 500 grain bullets, at 2150 fps, has a steady record of knocking the stuffings out of buffalo and bison, knocking them off their feet, enough to make the second barrel a finishing brain shot.
After much discussion with the principals, I'm rebarreling my CZ 550 to 416 Rigby, since I agree with Rich that that's REALLY the best place to start with buffalo rounds...
S
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Boston T. Party
Inactive
Absorbing posts, Rich, thanks!
I appreciate your candor.
I've also missed and shot poorly. Tis human.
Learn from it to not repeat it is our solution.
Col. Jeff Cooper: He was also the main influence on my
going to Africa, which I acknowledged in my dedication of
Safari Dreams. His writing style and sensible ideas
are always a pleasure to re-read.
He was unfairly underappreciated in the safari literature field.
I learned as much from him as I did from Ruark, Capstick, etc.
Boston
I appreciate your candor.
I've also missed and shot poorly. Tis human.
Learn from it to not repeat it is our solution.
Col. Jeff Cooper: He was also the main influence on my
going to Africa, which I acknowledged in my dedication of
Safari Dreams. His writing style and sensible ideas
are always a pleasure to re-read.
He was unfairly underappreciated in the safari literature field.
I learned as much from him as I did from Ruark, Capstick, etc.
Boston