I looked through a buddy's at the range last week. My Nikon prostaff with mil dot reticle in 4x12 was making target fuzzy at anything over 10 power. Adjusted ocular until reticle was clear. Also didn't have adjustable objective. Crosshairs were too thick to put on dime size target without covering it up. Vortex with 30 mm tube seems to gather much more light and the bdc reticle may come in handy. Just wondered if anyone had one and what they thought about it. Still mid range scope in $400.00 range but quality and warranty seemed good if it's what they say. I mounted it on Remington 700 sps 308.