Anyone know any impossibly accurate and reliable guns under $500?

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I'm not talking about buying from vendors either.

Anyway, I'm talking about guns that are accurate and reliable in that they do not jam, and one that has a hammer than a striker, because I want to be able to do single action functions and be able to replace it easier should that ever happen. Also one that is not international, but I can accept Taurus, Armscor, and EAA to a lesser extent, I think they used to be makers of low-end older pistols back then. But not Para-ordnance and to a lesser extent Bersa. Sorry, no offense.

I've thought about Ruger semi-automatic .45s(they have to be at most 10 cartridge per mag since I'll be living in CA), but I heard their accuracy wasn't as great as other guns. But do they mean the rifles? It's a shame, maybe that's why their pistols are cheap. There's always a tradeoff based on price.

I wanted a RIA tactical, but I haven't heard much about them to make it a definite choice. I was also thinking of an authentic government baller, but I can't tell who made the originals, and which ones are clones.

Maybe I should settle for a springfield. They seem to make quality guns(since they are from America after all), and cheaper than Kimbers.
 
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The Ruger .45 autos have a very good reputation for accuracy and reliability. Their ergonomics leave a bit to be desired for my own tastes. You may want to do some research as to where the Springfield guns are made. I believe you will find "Brazil" stamped on them. RIA guns are made in the Philippines.
 
No revolvers? Plenty of good ones available for less than $350 used and they are dead reliable and impossibly accurate. If it has to be a pistol, look for a CZ 75.
 
Yep, Springfield 1911's are from Brazil, the XD's from Croatia. But that would not stop me from buying one if it is what I wanted.

Heard good things about the RIA's. My brother has one of the tacticals and it is a good gun for the money. I have no problems with the Rugers either.
 
Well I've heard some things about rugers, which are mostly in the rifle department, but I remember hearing things about the Mark models. I've heard they've improved their steel choice with the semi-auto pistols to improve their accuracy though, but I haven't heard if they are up to par with the other 1911(whether they have other quality issues or not).

I forget about springfield having their XD's made in Croatia. But I've looked up their company's history, and it was based in America in the northeast somewhere. I was specifically looking for .45s(I should've stated that, but I am open to other calibers with the CA legal 10(not 10+1) cap mag and .45 happen to be the ones in that range, though I worry about firing it one-handed) and I was looking for the 1911 models that Springfield makes. So like the XDs they produce those overseas in the Phillipines?

I think Armscor is a Phillipine based company and they make the RIA Tactical, so that's why I've included them in the list.

When I said impossibly, I meant finding a gun that is both accurate and reliable. I should've emphasized the and by capslocking it, but I think you guys already know. I was considering a revolver to put into a starting gun collection, cause they are really cool looking, classic, and has a simple and reliable design. But I prefer a higher mag capacity, because I don't want just want one for self-defense, but for an apocalyptic scenario. I'm not crazy though believe me, I know the legalities, but I need a higher cap under a heavy fire situation.
 
The CZ 75 sounds good if I can get it modded for a 10 cap mag, but it would defeat the purpose of a 9mm having a higher ammo capacity than the .45 caliber. Still, it has the edge of being able to fire it one-handed without possibly damaging the gun internal mechanism i.e. jams. I wanted to only own two .45 pistols and move onto a shotgun as my only gun collection though, and the CZ 97 or one of the makes that is the .45 was something I had in mind, other than the kimber(after I sell this gun I will temporarily own since I'll have more money when I get a job xD).
 
Also I want to prepare for guys that use bulletproof vests, sometimes I don't know if I want to potentially shoot a guy in the head...but I guess 9mm with JHP can go through the vests material.
 
Alright the ruger p90 or p345 sounds tempting, so I may make my final decision on them that is, if they are really accurate. Also how do I spot a real colt 1911 on websites? Sometimes, I can't tell them from the clones the way the seller describes them.
 
No, 9mm will not shoot through a vest, and most any handgun ammunition that could shoot through a vest is illegal in Kalifornia. The Ruger 90 in .45 Colt is absolutly reliable and accurate and large and a good deal.
 
Got a CZ RAMI in .40 for about $350 a year ago. Light, fully functional and deadly accurate. I would not hesitate to buy another CZ. Oh wait, then I got a CZ 40 B- even better, 11 rounds and perfect balance. If I were in the mood for another pistol, I'd pick up a CZ 75.

Really, .40, 9 mm or .45 doesn't matter if you can shoot it accurately. And capacity is also meaningless. If you run into 2 bad guys that would be uncommon and 7 rounds are all you need.

I'm not aware of too many bad guys that wear bullet proof vests. If you are looking to defeat a vest, you need a rifle. And I'm a little concerned that this is an issue. Who are you expecting to come at you?
 
Ah yes, the old apocalyptic heavy fire scenario. Certainly the .45 is the intelligent choice for the more common apocalyptical gatherings.
 
Am I the only one that's a little creeped out by the OP's questions and comments?

I'm not talking about buying from vendors either.
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But I prefer a higher mag capacity, because I don't want just want one for self-defense, but for an apocalyptic scenario.
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I'm not crazy though believe me, I know the legalities, but I need a higher cap under a heavy fire situation.
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Also I want to prepare for guys that use bulletproof vests,
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If truth-seeker isn't on the wrong side of the law, he's starting a TEOTWAWKI thread. In either case, this one will probably be locked soon.
 
Buy a mil surplus commie block pistol in the 7.62x25 Tokarev family. Around 200-300 and the bullets are known to penetrate hard objects.
 
because I want to be able to do single action functions and be able to replace it easier should that ever happen.
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What exactly do you mean by this?

I've thought about Ruger semi-automatic .45s... but I heard their accuracy wasn't as great as other guns.
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That's not what I hear about the P90. Internet, YMMV.

Maybe I should settle for a springfield. They seem to make quality guns(since they are from America after all),
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(Springfield imports 1911 frames from Brazil.)
 
I'm talking about guns that are accurate and reliable in that they do not jam, and one that has a hammer than a striker, because I want to be able to do single action functions and be able to replace it easier should that ever happen.
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Ignoring the other nonsense, you are describing a CZ-82 semiauto, or a used S&W Model 10, 15, 19, 65, or 66 revolver.
 
XD
Beretta Cougar and 92FS
Beretta PX4 SC

even tried a wide variety and types of ammo, as well as the cheapest stuff we could find.... and could never make any of these fail in any way.
 
If you are looking for "the real deal" of 1911's, then you are looking for a Colt. They are the original manufacturers of the 1911, and have been making them for around a hundred years now. However, their lowest level models will cost around $750 or more, which puts it out of your price range.

Springfield has varying levels of guns, but the only one in your price range is the G.I., which sells for just over $500. These guns are completely made in Brazil, and are imported to the U.S., but for the price the quality isn't bad.
 
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