Anyone have 180gr 357 load data using Bullseye?

Not sure where you see the word 'Target' on the page I linked...

The three choices at the bottom of the page are "Self Defense", "Hunting", and "Plinker" in that order...

As I said...I do not disagree with you, but Speer lists that bullet under 'plinker' on the page I linked...

On the TMJ page itself, the word 'target' never appears:

http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/handgun/plinker/tmj.aspx

What it does say is:

" TMJ® bullets are great for casual practice and plinking because, in addition to being super-accurate, they are economical."
 
Longshot4 said:
When I can look up data that is from 1951 as old as me that really caught my eye.

Just remember that as with any reloading recipe, cross reference it if you can...

If you can't find additional sources, ask on forums like this one...

Some older data should be taken with a grain of salt, and asking others most often will get at least some good info or reasons why you should or shold not follow those recipes...

Start low and work up...
 
According to CCI, their 550 primer is a magnum primer. http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/primers/primer_chart.htm But, I used CCI 500's with W296 and my loads shot well. I don't know what the big fuss is about W296 needing magnum primers. Maybe in cold weather? I did have an ignition issue with a S&W revolver, cold weather, ball powder, and a worn out mainspring. I think I was using WSP at the time which were very hot primers. However, the real problem was not the primer, but weak ignition. Replaced the mainspring and the same loads went bang in slightly warmer, but still cold weather.


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[B]Smith & Wesson M27-2 6.5” Barrel[/B]			
					
					
		
158 LSWC Linotype 15.5 W296  Zero Cases CCI500 	
	 				
21 June 2008 T =  85 °F				
					
Ave Vel =	1282				
Std Dev =	35				
ES =	128.1				
High =	1325				
Low =	1197				
N =	12				
					
No leading, no extraction issues				
					
158 LSWC Linotype 15.5 W296  3D Cases CCI500 	
	 				
14 Oct 2008 T =  80 °F				
					
Ave Vel =	1260				
Std Dev =	34				
ES =	160.5				
High =	1315				
Low =	1154				
N =	18				
					
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don't give up on the bullseye, I have worked up 170gr loads using bullseye with mag primers, I only buy mag primers for all pistol reloading so I cannot help with that part of your question. but I have started with the SIERRA 170gr FMJ and tried bullseye, titegroup and WST. The titegroup was the clear winner, but the bullseye was consistent and nowhere near as dirty as people complain it is. I started my loads at 5.0 since I had almost no real data to go off of, ran them up to 5.8, none showing any pressure sign, and all were moderately accurate with a chrono'd speed of 980 on the low side(too low) and up to low 1100's on the high loads, I could have gone farther but I didn't feel the need when less titegroup finished out the day with better accuracy, slightly higher speeds with almost identical powder charges. I ran the TG with published data from 5.2-5.8gr ending up with lows in the 1000 area give or take 20fps and the higher loads giving impressive 1200's from the extra long lever-action with a 20" barrel. But no brass gave me any issues with pressure signs or "dirtiness" and although the TG runs at slightly less pressures with better outcomes, no reason the Bullseye couldn't be tweaked to be a safe load running decent numbers from even a revolver. I think you just need to pick a low and safe start point, find a published max to stay clear of, and i'll bet you can make a decent load....as for the primers, your just gonna have to try and maybe seat a little deeper with a little more crimp than you would usually use. there are internet loads that give very little info, and although the velocities are rarely matching or even close, I do find their starting loads to be reasonably within safe levels, but I still drop 10-15% to start since the authors are unknown.

I think TG is your closest match for load data, but obviously you need to drop a good bit starting out, other good choices would be WST, Universal and of course HP38. I believe except for density, load data and velocities are very close matches between TiteGroup and Bullseye. Have fun, here is a site that may help get you started for odd combinations.....as for the primers? can you really not find mag primers? I would save the pistol primers for lighter bullets and high density powders where you not playing too close to the pressure territories of a half full case of fluffy stuff.

use this site with caution and if you have data to match it up with or better yet a quikload or a close to weight/profile that's published, triple check and reduce when using this site as a guide.
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=357 Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun
 
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