Anyone else concerned about this?

The unfortunate truth is most firearm homicides are committed by people with huge rap sheets, including felonies.

In other words, prohibiting possession doesn't work, does it?:eek: (Think about it!) You're endorsing a system that only hurts those who are trying to go straight. It's the same as any gun control law.
 
But whether one believes released convicted felons shouldn't possess firearms or not is not the issue here in question.........But again, that was not the question posed by the original poster which was specifically questioning if a convicted felon could legally own a muzzleloader.

Actually, Bill, his question was, "Anyone else concerned about this?"
 
Now here's a question, why is it that a person who commit's a felony (non-violent), be it drug related, not returning video tapes, cheating on their taxes etc, etc, is never fully forgiven in the eye's of the law? As was mentioned earlier, it's getting easier and easier to commit a felony...anybody out there worried about being the next felon? Example, I have 2 older rancher friends who graze their beef on BLM land. They were checking their stock on a rainy day (on horse back), and started casually talking to a "forrest cop". She asked if they were worried about coyotes getting the calves that time of year, the answer was, "yes" by both men. She then asked if they carried weapon's for such and emergency. They both nodded yes and one pulled back his slicker and showed her the old single action he carried. She immediately drew her gun, called for backup and had them arrested. They were both convicted of felonies for posessing concealed weapons (on BLM land). In a fair court of law the gun's should have been labled "tool's". They had 60 day's to sell all firearms and got 5 years probation. These are a couple of the "felon's" some of you guy's are so worried about.
 
Model-P wrote:
Actually, Bill, his question was, "Anyone else concerned about this?"

True Model-P. However, American Eagle's above question has no meaning unless it was explained by him (which it was) as to what the "THIS" was that he was talking about. The "THIS" he was asking if anyone was concerned about, was this....

American Eagle wrote:
I kept coming across tons of threads asking if a felon can own a black powder firearm.

I believe it is clear American Eagle was asking if anyone was concerned about if convicted felons could own black powder muzzleloaders. Unless I'm missing something which of course is possible, to me that means his question was (to paraphrase)....Is anyone concerned about convicted Felons being able to own black powder firearms.

I just wanted those who may not know to realize that black powder muzzleloaders are not legally Firearms under Federal law. So it would be impossible for a convicted Felon to own a muzzleloader that was a firearm under FEDERAL LAW, because Muzzleloaders are not considered firearms under the Federal NFA. They are considered "firearms" in a few more restrictive law states and in some other states strictly for the purposes of not allowing convicted felons to have them even though for all other legal purposes they are not legally firearms for anyone else not a convicted felon in that state. (Such is the variance of what a convicted felon may possess from state to state).

I just wanted to make sure everyone here understands that per Federal law, muzzleloaders are NOT firearms. And also that we should be careful ourselves to not call them what they are not lest they become so.

That was all.


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In some states it's a gray area of the law and lower judges are left to decide if the muzzle loader is a firearm or if its possession is an offense or not.
It's certainly less risky for a judge to apply a broad interpretation of what constitutes a firearm or a possession violation which leaves the felon needing to foot the bill for an appeal.
 
I'm sorry my post caused some controversy. Since every revolver, pistol or rifle I own is classed as a firearm, I have gotten used to calling everything a firearm.

I'm just getting started with black powder weapons, so I am going to have to drill into my head the vocabulary of my new hobby. Now I know how a novice feels when he refers to a magazine as a clip in front of gun enthusiasts. Anyway, I'm sure it won't be the last time I mislabel something, but I'll do my best to learn all the correct terminology relating to black powder weapons.
 
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