I was using .357, 145 gr. Silvertips in a Smith 4" 681, when I was involved in a shooting back in 1984. Of the 5 rounds I fired, three were hits. The first round hit the bad guy in the lower right leg and traveled up, knocking him down, but he got back up quickly. The second hit was in the right forearm, traveling just under the skin and out near his elbow, causing him to hit the gound again. The third hit was ceter chest which stopped the fight. Of the rounds recovered from his body, they recovered only fragments of the round that hit his right leg. The round that hit his arm was not recovered. The round that was recovered from his chest did not mushroom, it had flattened on one side, but that was it. It did, however, do the job it was intended for and that was to stop the fight.