any new weapons in this caliber or is .25 acp on its way out?

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This is not about the perennial debate of the tiny .25's effectiveness, rather about its actual state within the range of available calibers.

Many say that .25 acp is only still there because of the surge of guns that have been produced in this caliber as long as the 80ies or maybe even 90ies. Indeed, it seems that there haven't been any new development involving this caliber within say the last 20 years, apart from the Taurus PT25 ply as the only exception. I guess even most of the long-running clones of classics in this caliber are out of production by now, and anyway those are hardly to be considered new models but rather newly manufactured old models.

Is that impression true or did I miss some novelty on the market?
 
Not on it's way out as long as pistols like my 1908 Colt or Star CO's are still banging away. The demand for .25 ACP is too great to die now.
 
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There's a rumor of the new Seecamp company owners bringing back the original .25acp caliber to the famed little gem. I'd buy one if for no other reason than nostalgia.
 
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Phoenix has made a HP-25 for years that is almost identical to the HP-22. I think the main problem with 25 is the cost when compared to the 22LR.
 
Company has brought back the Bauer again For the price could buy a new 1911 . I have several 25acp mainly Beretta and a early Bauer . I like the little guns and I like the caliber over a short barrel 22 If going to carry.

Remember test have shown the ball has went from 13 to 16 inches in the jell block. Hey FBI always pushing 12" min. I suggest to save money and raise the qualifying scores The FBI change to 25 instead of 9mm .
 
I still practice with my 25ACP from time to time. As far as I am concerned, it will never go away.

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I've got a bunch of .25's in my collection. No they will not come back as a popular carry gun round.

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.32 auto was in the same position some years ago. Then Seecamp came out with his gun, and Winchester developed the Silvertip .32 acp.
All it would take is an innovative maker coming out with a new .25 for the caliber to be popular.
Who has information on the new Bauer?
 
I picked up an older Bauer which had function issues for cheap, and have had fun bringing it back to functionality. Thanks to the gift of an internal parts set, and ordering a few others from PSA, it is just about completely new inside.
In fact, I shot it last week and for the first time, had 100% perfect operation. Lots of fun to shoot, now that it works.
The Baby design of the Bauer is very tiny in the pocket. I was actually able get a decent group at 7yds, tiny sights and all.
I'm under no illusion about the power of the 25acp...I've shot it for years in different guns, and shot it into different things to test it.
Still, at close range, it has the ability to be useful.
I just wish I could still get the German GECO ammo I used to buy in the 80's. Sealed case mouth and primer with cupro nickel FMJ. Seemed much more powerful than the stuff today. Came in a sky blue and red box.

In fact, the .25 world could use a full power FMJ load. I think today's ammo may be limited by fears of use in zamak wonders of the 80's.
 
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Years back one of the combat gun rags worked a Bauer over .

Milled top of slide to remove the sights . Cut the safety pad down to almost nothing . Thinned the grips as much as possible . Fit in a flip top cigarette box. when finished

we need a 25+P Ball or HP :D
 
I take it nobody is a fan of the Taurus 25PLY? I know the tip-up barrel could discourage it for carry, but still a small and light gun, 10oz. Maybe if more people bought the Taurus, another manufacturer would consider making one, It is pretty fugly though, not a pistol I am interested in.
 
way too many .25acp guns out there for the round to fade away. they have their place for those whom are recoil sensitive when compared to guns like the KT p3at and the like.

I also agree that the .25acp round is not loaded to its potential because manufacturers fear of its use in pot metal guns. a 50grain fmj that at 850 fps would be a good deal for those with quality guns such as the Beretta 950BS or model 21. the ammo could have a warning about its use in guns with none steel slides.
 
My Colt and two Star pistols are 100% reliable with the ball ammo i shoot but both are finely milled all steel pistols that would cost a fortune to manufacture today. I do not feel undergunned for my everyday carry with a Sig, G42 or Kimber .380 but the .25 is not something i would routinely carry to protect my butt.
 
small guns in "better" calibers are harder to shoot. the pop up bbl allows weak hands to have a round in the chamber without having to rack the slide. couple that with a generous grip (by comparison) and a low recoil round (from a small gun) it's easy to see why the Berettas are popular.

 
I have three mouse guns all 25ACP. Couple of Beretta 21A's and a Raven (cheap, junky and kinda works). IMO hardly no one handloads this cartridge which may work in it's favor somewhat. Availability is fair.
 
Probably won't become obsolete -- but...

Given the fact that there are so many MORE-POWERFUL pocket guns (in .32 or .380) and some very small 9mm semi-pocket guns (like the RohrBaugh R9), it's hard to make a business case to build and sell a gun that has to fit into an already well-supported part of the gun market.
 
You simply can't make a .32, .380, or 9mm as small as you can make a .25.
I just bought a PSP Browning copy on GB today. It will fit nicely with my lightweight Browning and my Bauer.
 
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