When Glock first came out with a factory colored frame, (OD green around 2008 or 09 I believe) THEY DIDN'T SELL!OhioGuy Maybe they'll re-release their entire lineup in dark gray instead of black, give them all new numbers, and they'll sell like hotcakes all over again.
Glock is staring at the abyss, the LE market is rapidly moving to other pistols, the civilian market has many other options, including used Glocks, and Glock isn't making much of anything that people want.
For a company that has been doing business in the United States for only a quarter century — one of its competitors has been in business in America since 1852 — Glock has been remarkably successful. Glock declines to provide specific sales figures, but the company is the leader in handgun sales to American police departments — indeed, a whopping 65 percent of them use Glock guns. On top of that, it has considerable global sales and remains popular with the private citizens who buy most of the guns in the United States.
Explain how Glock is laughingly stupid and S&W, Ruger with the same mag capacity are not?TruthTellers ..... this new .22 is laughably stupid with the 10 round magazine,
I can't say I've ever read a dumber statement than this. My Secret Service buddies are giddy over their new Glocks. But wait, LE is moving away? Better notify the FBI, ATF, Secret Service and all those other federal agencies getting their new Glocks. Lets ignore the state and local LE that mimic what the FBI carries.Glock is staring at the abyss, the LE market is rapidly moving to other pistols, the civilian market has many other options, including used Glocks, and Glock isn't making much of anything that people want.
Honestly, you need to get out more. I transfer/sell two hundred 9mm Glocks for every 10mm of any brand. I'll eventually get one, but the 10mm is about as popular as the .357sig.Honestly, the only time I hear people IRL talk about getting a Glock or expressing interest in a Glock is the 10mm.
Yeah, smart like the kid who repeated kindergarten.If Glock was smart they'd come out with a single stack in 10mm, a budget model in 10mm ($400 or less new), maybe a 10mm carbine.
There aren't a lot of 10mm carbines because no one wants a pistol caliber carbine that costs more than .300blackout to shoot. Take a deep breath and think why 9mm carbines are so popular. Hint....it's not because of the awesome ballistics.Yeah, the carbine would be 20 years late, especially for a 9mm, but 10mm is different as there aren't a lot of 10mm carbines out there right now. There's the Hi Point, which, sure it works, but you're stuck with 10 rd mags. There is a Kriss that costs over a grand, there's an AR type made by TNW and that looks like a good lightweight survival rifle, but for a heavy duty, dead nuts reliable 10mm carbine that will not cost more than a grand, a Glock would be it.
Yeah, it sounds silly. Why not go full on and chamber it in .25naa?This will sound silly, but people are really embracing the low recoil of .32 ACP. If Glock made one that's smaller than the 42 and used a locked breech, it would get a lot of attention.
I have it on good authority the Gen6 Glocks will have two lanyard holes and integral bayonet.pete2 It's about time for Gen 6..............................No??????
I got 30 mins to kill, so sure.Explain how Glock is laughingly stupid and S&W, Ruger with the same mag capacity are not?
Sure, tehy could have gone full KelTecified and built a 30 rounder that rarely works out of the box, but instead chose a ten rounder because they'll be able to sell them in nearly ever state.....states where there are mag limits.
Laughably stupid is not understanding the firearms market.
I don't care what your SS buddies think, nor the Feds, I look at what local and state police are doing and they're dumping Glocks. I can't say I agree, I think Glocks are fine, but they don't have the cash cow they once did.I can't say I've ever read a dumber statement than this. My Secret Service buddies are giddy over their new Glocks. But wait, LE is moving away? Better notify the FBI, ATF, Secret Service and all those other federal agencies getting their new Glocks. Lets ignore the state and local LE that mimic what the FBI carries.
Alex: Once the predominate caliber among U.S. law enforcement, now its sales are falling faster than speeding bullet.
Ken Jennings: What was the .40s&w?
Wow, 9mm is very popular, damn that is some breaking news. I can only tell you what I hear and I can't say people I meet at the range or in a store like 9mm Glocks, they like other 9mm pistols, but when they talk about Glock, it's the 10mm that they want or speak highly of.Honestly, you need to get out more. I transfer/sell two hundred 9mm Glocks for every 10mm of any brand. I'll eventually get one, but the 10mm is about as popular as the .357sig.
You act as tho the 10mm market is as dead as .40 and that's not true. There are no 10mm's under $400 brand new, but used ones sure are. That shows there's a demand for a cheaper 10mm and if someone brought a new 10mm to market for under $400, they'd sell. How can you sit there and tell me it wouldn't? You're not the guy buying the gun to own, you're a little dealer who is out of touch.Yeah, smart like the kid who repeated kindergarten.
Your understanding of the 10mm market is skewed. Tell us more about the vast selection of 10mm pistols that sell for $400 or less.
If Glock was smart?
There aren't a lot of 10mm carbines because no one wants a pistol caliber carbine that costs more than .300blackout to shoot. Take a deep breath and think why 9mm carbines are so popular. Hint....it's not because of the awesome ballistics.
Again, out of touch.Yeah, it sounds silly. Why not go full on and chamber it in .25naa?
I look at what local and state police are doing and they're dumping Glocks.
What makes you think they won't?TruthTellers
I didn't say that it needed to hold 30 rounds like the Kel Tec CP33 does, but it's stupid when you consider Ruger has the LCP that holds 10 rounds, the Phoenix that holds 10 rounds and they're a lot smaller. I get that Glock wanted to sell these in ban states, but Glock makes 10 rd mags for use in the G19 that normally holds 15 rounds. Why couldn't they do the same for the 44?
What "they got the money" has to do with anything, only you know. And if Glock didn't give a crap then explain why they gave enough to build t on the first place.They got the money, they just don't give a crap cuz the Glock fanboys will but it up like a .22 never existed before.
So you choose to ignore the massive DHS/DOJ contracts and have us believe state and local police are "dumping Glocks". Details please, and while you are at it provide a list of LE market share among Glock, S&W, HK, Beretta, Sig, etc.I don't care what your SS buddies think, nor the Feds, I look at what local and state police are doing and they're dumping Glocks. I can't say I agree, I think Glocks are fine, but they don't have the cash cow they once did.
Like I said, you need to get out more. And please tell us where this magical place is where people don't like Glock 9mm pistols.Wow, 9mm is very popular, damn that is some breaking news. I can only tell you what I hear and I can't say people I meet at the range or in a store like 9mm Glocks, they like other 9mm pistols, but when they talk about Glock, it's the 10mm that they want or speak highly of.
Well, lets play.You act as tho the 10mm market is as dead as .40 and that's not true.
We ain't taking used guns, you brought up the idea of NEW 10mm Glocks at the $400 price point.There are no 10mm's under $400 brand new, but used ones sure are.
I'm sure they would, but you kinda have to understand that Glock and others know 10mm is waaaaayy down...............................here in popularity (ie SALES) compared to 9mm/.40/.45. They have no incentive to sell a 10mm at $400 when they sell all the 9/40/45 they want at $500 and up. Racing to the bottom doesn't mean more $$$.That shows there's a demand for a cheaper 10mm and if someone brought a new 10mm to market for under $400, they'd sell.
Out of touch?How can you sit there and tell me it wouldn't? You're not the guy buying the gun to own, you're a little dealer who is out of touch.
I didn't write that...I wrote: "There aren't a lot of 10mm carbines because no one wants a pistol caliber carbine that costs more than .300blackout to shoot." I was esponding to your comment about "There is a Kriss that costs over a grand"........and the 10mm Kriss is not nearly as good a seller as their other calibers.And 10mm ammo doesn't cost as much a .300 does.
Whatareya? Nutz? Glock is staring at the abyss, will be outta biz in a week or two and your Glock 45 will be worthless..->My two favorite Glocks are the Glock 45 and the Gen 5 Glock 34. Now that the Glock 34 no longer has a cut out on the slike, I think it is a fantastic SD/combat weapon. The Glock 45 feels great in the hand, the combination of a 17 frame/grip size and a 19 slide is fantastic.