Any H&K fans here?

H&K makes a quality handgun.I have a P2000 v3 and a HK45c, both outstanding guns and I am a Sig guy at heart.
 
Yeah, those P7s were not well-received "back in the day". That was a case of Teutonic ingenuity colliding with American traditionalism.

If they're working out for people now, power to you.
 
I recently shot a USP in 9 (Version 1) and liked how soft it shot (probably because the gun is built like a tank) but I had problems with accuracy that I am going to attribute to the trigger pull. Who knows, maybe it just is different than what I am used to (a Beretta 92). I have heard others complain about the triggers, though, so maybe I am not totally crazy. :-) Anybody else have similar issues?
 
clintpup said:
I recently shot a USP in 9 (Version 1) and liked how soft it shot (probably because the gun is built like a tank) but I had problems with accuracy that I am going to attribute to the trigger pull. Who knows, maybe it just is different than what I am used to (a Beretta 92). I have heard others complain about the triggers, though, so maybe I am not totally crazy. :-) Anybody else have similar issues?
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Let me guess shooting low?

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clintpup said:
I remember it shooting to the left...
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Interesting. I know my HK45 full size is laser beam accurate. Unfortunately myself am not. At least not with a pistol just yet. The USP has ergos of a brick. Much prefer the HK45 as it fits in the hand like it was made for it. May just be the grip on the USP didn't work for you

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Had a USP 45 for a while, but it was just too big for my hands. Always wanted a P7 but other guns just took priority.
 
Back in the 1994 I shot I think a g41. All I remember about that rifle was that it left distinct thin powder marks along the length of the cases and dented them. A couple of years later I shot a g3 that had reportedly been a police duty rifle. Sweet and smooth. I bought a cetme and later an early production ptr91.

Long story short, I'm getting my ccw renewed after letting it lapse some years ago and both my carry pistols aren't what I consider to be reliable so I grabbed a used HK USP 40c (v1 bobbed hammer?) last month at gander mountain (with their sale). Several hundred rounds, no failures for me, but my 14 yr old daughter had a feed problem (her first day shooting, another long story).

I find I shoot the gun low and there's a LOT of travel on that trigger.
 
I liked the P7M8's I had , very accurate with the fixed barrel ,burn your finger a bit, payed alot for them brand new, now wish I still had them :( , I also had a USP Compact in .45 for a bit, HK makes good guns, not sure what my next HK will be.
 
brian33x51 said:
Back in the 1994 I shot I think a g41. All I remember about that rifle was that it left distinct thin powder marks along the length of the cases and dented them. A couple of years later I shot a g3 that had reportedly been a police duty rifle. Sweet and smooth. I bought a cetme and later an early production ptr91.

Long story short, I'm getting my ccw renewed after letting it lapse some years ago and both my carry pistols aren't what I consider to be reliable so I grabbed a used HK USP 40c (v1 bobbed hammer?) last month at gander mountain (with their sale). Several hundred rounds, no failures for me, but my 14 yr old daughter had a feed problem (her first day shooting, another long story).

I find I shoot the gun low and there's a LOT of travel on that trigger.
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Likely bending your wrist down in anticipation of the shot. Likely subconsciously. Try dry firing with snap caps and see where you end up pointing.

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I've already said that I love HK. They're my favorite manufacturer. But I have one issue that I didn't mention, so I think I will now.


The USP 9 full-size and compact are available, but there isn't a mid-sized gun.

So, I can't always carry the full-sized USP comfortable and I don't like the grip length of the USP 9 Compact as it reminds me more of a Glock 26 than it does a Glock 19.

I wish they made a P228/P229 sized HK USP... But oh well.
 
I call their Compact their midsize gun... the SK models are there smaller guns.

Even the P2000 (more or less, a USP Compact with improvements) or P30 isn't that big. When you get the longer slide/barrel, then you go into a larger gun
 
I don't know, Screwball. I know the SK line has come out and all, but I see those as even smaller than the Glock 26.

It's like the Smith and Wesson M&P. They came out with a compact and everyone and their mother were saying "If only it was Glock 19 sized!".

Kind of how I feel about most HK pistols. I pinch myself in the palm by my pink when I do speed reloads on my USP compacts. I've actually sold them and kept the full-sized USPs which as of late, I haven't been carrying too much.
 
SK pistols are a tiny big bigger then a comparable Glock 26
Compact pistols(USPc, P2000) are damn near Glock 19 dimensions, especially P2000

The P30/VP9 sort of split the difference between a Glock 17 and Glock 19.

EDIT- I just compared a P2000 to a Glock 19.
The Glock has a thinner yet blockier slide
The grip length is as close to identical to not matter
The length is a bit longer in the Glock
The grip is much more comfortable/thin front strap to back strap on the HK for me.
The Glock 19 is a bit smaller owing to the striker system vs the Hammer fired system.

All in all the the P2000 is a hammer fired Glock 19/23.
 
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The_Jerkman said:
Likely bending your wrist down in anticipation of the shot. Likely subconsciously. Try dry firing with snap caps and see where you end up pointing.

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Could be, but I was alternating firing with other pistols. The others grouped just fine, the HK all shots on the bottom half of the targets. Somewhere I read the HKs use a different sight picture?

Have to admit the HK trigger has a much longer pull than the other pistols I was firing at the time (brand new m&p shield 9mm, all steel tanfoglio eaa witness 10mm full size, bersa thunder 380).
 
brian33x51 said:
Could be, but I was alternating firing with other pistols. The others grouped just fine, the HK all shots on the bottom half of the targets. Somewhere I read the HKs use a different sight picture?

Have to admit the HK trigger has a much longer pull than the other pistols I was firing at the time (brand new m&p shield 9mm, all steel tanfoglio eaa witness 10mm full size, bersa thunder 380).
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HK uses a dead on hold. Which can definitely take some getting used to. That could be part of the issue. I know that seems to be one of my issues when starting to shoot mine. But as a whole one would be very hard pressed to find a more accurate out of the box pistol than the HKs

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