Any Cyclists carry?

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Bear spray may work on a dog.. but it's been my personal experience that Pepper spray is amost useless on a dog. I believe it's because dogs dont have tear ducts. Thats what I was told anyway. I'm not sure what it is but USPS employees sometimes carry some kind of spray the does work on dogs.

Sometimes shooting dogs dont work out so well either.


Glenn.
 
I've seen pepper spray work just fine on a dog.......MY DOG! The mailman sprayed him when he took off after him. Stopped him dead in his tracks - wincing like a wounded pup for about an hour.
 
the Indians in the day were all left hand throttle, hence making it easier to draw.
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Get a Harley with cruse control. If you can't out run them set it and draw. I recommend the Ultra classic.:D
 
STOP, get off the bicycle, put the bicycle between you and the dog !!
In the old days there was a revolver specifically designed for this problem - 5.5mm Velo Dog revolver [ velo = velocipede =bicycle] It bwas no better than a 22LR.
 
Pepper spray

One big problem with pepper spray, well actually more than one.
First is you have to be close, too close. Second wind is a factor quite a bit of a time. Third more often than not there is more than one and that makes it very difficult to hit the animal in the eyes. If pepper spray was so effective more people would sleep with it beside their bed instead of a shotgun.
I am not suggesting that anyone start shooting peoples yard dogs. I am suggesting that a person on a bicycle or a motorcycle has a right to protect themselves.
Most people never get the rush of having 2 or 3 unneutered yard dogs come out on the highway and try to bracket them. If you ride a bike it happens especially where people are not held accountable for their animals behavior
 
I carry the same .45 when riding the Harley as when I'm not. In a left hand holster on my right rear. I can pull the clutch in with my left hand, hit the rear brake with my foot, and still be able to draw my pistol if needed.
It conceals easily under my leather jacket, or in the warmer weather beneath a light vest.

On the bicycle, when I rode, I have a Beretta Tomcat that fits in a cheesy little fanny pack. I despise the .25 auto cartridge, but figure its better than nothing in a pinch and the Beretta was the only pistol that fit the bill.
 
One big problem with pepper spray, well actually more than one.
First is you have to be close, too close. Second wind is a factor quite a bit of a time.
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That's why you use something like Halt! brand OC. Similar to bear spray, it shoots it's spray 10-15 feet, and is intended for use on dogs, unlike normal OC used on people. USPS carriers have been using it with great success for decades. About 10 bucks. I might be getting me some when I move to the country and I'm not used to the bike routes. But, I'll still carry my Glock 26, 124 gr Hydra-Shoks, in an Uncle Mike's Kydex, 3:30 or so.
 
That answer your question about which brand?

Dogs don't break into too many homes at 2 a.m. either.:rolleyes:

If the dog is out of the average 15ft pepper spray range, then it isn't able to bite you either.

I'm all for people being well protected. That's why we carry. I just don't think it's too wise to shoot anything unless absolutely required. It goes back to the trouble you'll get into for using it, too.

Ask the guy who's dog was sprayed by the mailman what he did about it. (After he helped his dog, my guess would be file a complaint or tell the mailman stay off his property, would be my guess.) Then ask him which gun (and how many times) he would have emptied into the postal truck, if the mail man had shot his dog.

Just something to seriously keep in mind.
 
One only time I use a fanny pack. The pack has a water bottle holder on it which makes it a little less like a gun carrier. After several run in's with dogs on rides in the country I carry my Glock 30 loaded with Winchester Ranger 230gr. +p's. Had some jerk let his dog (a big Doberman) come after me. I was on the road, nowhere near his property. I jumped off my bike and got it between me and the dog and drew my gun. Only then did the jerk stop smiling and call his dog back. Similar incident with a Pit Bull not on a leash. Both times the gun coaxed the owners into calling them back. Called the police on the Pit Bull. The responding officer said "I should of killd the damn thing". Told me a little story about seeing an eleven year old girl torn up by one. Took four rounds to take it out. Girl needed almost 100 stitches to be put back together. I like animals. But it is up to the owner to keep them under control. It is illegal here to not have them on a leash off your property. Even then you must have your animal under control. Sorry to rant just a real button of mine. It is a very bad experience to have a large dog after you trying to tear you up!
 
Why call on the pitbull and not the Doberman? Dobermans make better trained attack dogs than pitbulls. And rotweillers and bull mastiffs make better guard dogs. It is what they were bred for doing. Pitbulls were bred for dog fighting. Will they do the job? Absolutely. However, the others are better physically and mentally suited for the aforementioned jobs. Equally, if 2
dogs fight the smart money is on the pitbull, if even remotely close in size and age.

The media gives the breed a bad reputation. It's kind of like every long gun is an assualt rifle. Poodle bites somebody. News at 11 pitbull savagely attacks toddler. Over and over. Lots of second and third hand accounts.

Pitbulls are great dogs. Very stoic and protective of their family, especially children. The same gameness that was bred into them for fighting is what makes them so good with kids. Watch a Golden Retriever react to a kid pulling its ears or tail. Probably and rightfully nip at the kid.The pitbull will just think it's a game and probably enjoy the rough housing. They are very strong and not for people who can't handle them. Also, the are one of the more intelligent bull breeds and require socialization
and consistant traing at a young age.

On a side note, before somebody chimes in about mean fighting dogs attacking people, here's a fact about the sickening "sport" of organized dog fighting, a dogman wants his dog to be dog-aggressive NOT human-aggressive. You hold and wash your opponents dog before the fight. This is done to insure there's no poison or foul tasting things on the animal's fur, which would discourage the other dog from biting it. If your dog won't let
the other guy wash it, you can't fight it. You are disqualified. You lose your money and everyone who bet on your dog.

The only thing that DESERVED to be shot were the a$$holes that owned the dogs and instilled the misbehavior.

Both Dalmations and Jack Russell terriers bite more people than pitbulls. The difference is the pitbull is much stronger and has a powerful bite, so the bites are more severe. And an attack is harder to stop because of the breed's stoic nature and high pain threshold.

Basically, I think the best solution for the OP
is to carry some Halt, bear repellant or other form of OC spray for dogs
AND a 1911 for the idiots that own them. Treat the actual illness not the symptoms.
 
Dog repellant and dog owners

Essentially, I have observed that some dog owners like agressive dogs. So when their dog goes after someone, it kind of gets them all excited. That is lame.

The best solution for this is for dog owners to be responsible. I have killed a couple of mutts cause the owners were brain dead. After a couple of unhappy conversations, wherein I was trying to be civilized, and the dog owner (both of them) was being an a@#$le, I figured just shooting the dog was the best outcome. If the dog owner don't like it, a double barrel 12 has another round. You don't want your dog shot, keep the damn thing under control.:mad:
 
I jumped off my bike and got it between me and the dog and drew my gun. Only then did the jerk stop smiling and call his dog back.
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What the hell is it with people? Somewhere in these threads I reported last year that I was riding my bike at night as usual, passed a house in my own neighborhood where a large dog was sitting on his front lawn. As I passed, I heard his idiotic owner mutter "Git 'im." The dog let out a woof, as it got up and started out, and I yelled back "Big ******* mistake!" as I lifted my safety vest and gripped my G26. Owner immediately called the dog back. I went back a few more times at police request trying to pinpoint the house, but I can't be sure of the exact house. But I'll know it when I see that dog again.
 
I agree 100% that the owners who let these dogs come after me were the source of the problem. One even was smiling as he watched the dog try to run me down. Pretty sure he told the dog to go after me. Not the dogs fault. But not mine either. I'm not going to let a dog chew me up if I can stop it. Not saying good or bad about the Pit Bull. All I know it was after me. All I needed to know at the time. It wasn't that it was a particular type of dog. Hell if a full sized dog of any kind was trying to chew me up the response would be the same. Have talked with several police officers at my range that have had run ins with Pit Bulls and Rotts.
The problem is alot of drug pushers use these animals to protect them and their "profession". They are hard to stop. Sad the animals are used for this. Again not their fault. But they are a real threat. Bad thing is that Rottweilers used to be known as great family animals. Well known for their love of children. Shame they are screwing up such fine animals. I've owned Dobs by the way. Loved them and they were great dogs. But they were always under my control. When I took them out they were on a strong leash. Like I said damn shame they are being used in such a terrible manner by low lifes. And just to give you some of my experiences with Dobs a friend up North was a professional attack dog trainer. I've worked them before in full protective gear. It is incredible how hard the can hit. The arm piece was leather wrapped in rope. Still left little bruises on my arms sometimes. Lots of those dogs saved their masters bacon. Don't hear those stories quite as often. But I do know what they can do. Scary!
 
You don't hear the stories with happy endings on the news too much. However, to give you an idea of the topflight investigating done about dog attacks, a couple years ago the news did one of those "knock on the guys door" type stories at a house were the neighbors complained about
a guy's pitbulls barking at and chasing children. The guy obviously had no comment. A patrol cop (who didn't really look like he wanted to be bothered for an interview) in the neighborhood said he was unaware
of any specific complaints but knew that there were "a buncha pitbulls and alot of guard dogs in people's yards." The funny thing is that the dog owner's "pitbulls" (which were obviously somekind of Shepherd-mix and what looked like an Akita) only barked and cricled the reporter and camera man when they opened the chainlink fence and let themselves onto the
owner's property. After, the clip aired and they cut back to the news
desk, the anchor said if you encounter a dangerous dog like a pitbull call animal control and let them remove the animal.

Pitbulls are the "assualt rifle" of the dog world. The media calls anything biiger than a snub nose an assualt rifle and any dog that barks a pitbull. :barf:

Whatever happened to fact checking and responsible reporting?

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Such dangerous breed.:D
 
When cycling, I carry a S&W 642 in a fanny pack. I don't use one of those gun-store fanny-packs that you can put your uzi in. I use a little sissy red one with silver reflective material... it matches my bicycle!

My stepfather, an avid cyclist who does not carry, had an ongoing problem with the same dog every night on his way to work. The dog would sneak up on him in the same area every night and give chase. There was not really a better route to take, and he could outrun the dog. One night he finally took a spray bottle full of ammonia. It only took one shot and the dog never bothered him again.

(edited to add "When cycling" to the beginning. I can't have anyone thinking I would normally wear a fanny pack.)
 
I regularly ride my Schwinn on very long treks,keeping to the country back roads. My armament consists of a Cold Steel 5'' Voyager folder,pepper spray,and a Ruger SP-101 carried in an ankle holster. It's loaded with 110 gr.JHPs. The pepper spray gets used routinely to fend off pursuing dogs,and USUALLY works well for that purpose [the Ruger and the Voyager can be easily accessed should the pepper spray fail to discourage the dog,and all weapons mentioned are resorted to only if I'm unable to out-run them]. Sometimes I switch over to my Ruger P-90,carried in an IWB rig and loaded with 230 gr. JHPs. I'm able to pull this off because while I am a serious rider...you'll never see me wearing those silly spandex outfits! I typically wear sweat pants and a Heat Gear shirt,several sizes larger than needed to aid concealment. Hope this helps.
 
IWB in the small of the back with a small fanny pack over it for concealment. It hides nicely, draws easily, and doesn't interfere the ride at all.
 
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