Antlerless only seasons

My Mother in law and Father in law have a farm in Sanilac county there are so many deer up on their farm that they have rows of corn torn up from the deer, Scouting up there 3 weeks ago I personally seen a herd of 25 in My Father in Laws crops. We needed this early season, Also usually farmers get block permits and I know a few that would just shoot any deer whether it be doe or fawn and just leave it, that sickens me at least this way we got some hunters out that would actually enjoy taking some deer and putting them to good use. Just my 2 cents on the issue
 
In NC we can take:
Bow opened Sep 15 here, MZL Oct1, and gun Oct 15. Just got my license two nights ago:
2 hunters choice
2 antlered
2 non-antlered
2 wild boar
1 bear
2 turkey,
the best part, if you fill your deer tags you get more, just go to the store and request them.
 
I live in section 5C in Pennsylvania and there is not nearly the deer here that were here 15 years ago. There is more land to hunt in Lehigh county than in Bucks county, so there is a lot more deer in Bucks county. There is almost nowhere to hunt in Bucks county so it is overrun with deer. Lehigh county is really thinned out except for areas that are developed. I usually hunt in 4-C and that has a lot of open land, but the liberal doe tags have pretty much destroyed that section. As for improving the deer "quality", what a bunch of crap. The Pa. Game Commission says the bucks are getting bigger racks but that is due to more guys posting their land and the mania for planting food plots. What it comes down to is always money. The insurance companies, farmers and foresters putting pressure on the Game Commission. All you have to do is look at old pictures and facts in the Game Commissions own publications to see they are full of it. Doe hunting is needed, but not to the extent that it endangers the herd.
 
until last year, we have always had a 2nd (antlerless) deer tag. It was available from archery (late aug to november) musket and general season (ends 1st week of dec)
It has helped the deer population alot. There was good balance between bucks and does. the winter of 08-09 was a really harsh one. we had lots of coyotes too, so it thinned the heard out.
I am a meat hunter, so ill take a young doe or buck any day. I do like the bragging rights of antlers, but not worth the tough rotten old buck steaks.
 
As this relates to the 5C area of PA......one big problem I see is that when they broke the state up into wildlife management units (WMU) it screwed things up. Too many parts of counties in different WMUs. Example....Chester and Montgomery counties have a lot of deer. Lots of houses so the deer are pushed closer together. Plus we get the spill over of deer heading out of Valley Forge in some areas. I have seen herds of 15-20 and sometimes bigger around and on one property we hunt. The problem is that other people around that property wont let you hunt, even with a bow.

Other counties don't have as many deer with more land to hunt yet they fall into WMUs that have other counties with lots of deer. Going back Montgomery and Chester Counties have a lot more deer than Lehigh and Berks. You can shoot a rifle in Lehigh and Berks but not in Montgomery and Chester. This creates a problem when you are giving out 121,000 antlerless tags for that part of PA
 
It is a fact that NO STATE WITH LIBERAL BAG LIMITS has ever
had a known case of even a single deer with symptoms of CWD...

Not trying to be smart(really)..but I don't understand this comment. I guess it has to be in context. I consider 5-6 tags as liberal, which we have in places here, and we have CWD. Almost the entire eastern half of the state is CWD possible.
Antlerless seasons serve a huge purpose in managing herds.
elkman06
 
elkman, I like our liberal bag limit... 2 per day, everyday of season...
Basically, from Oct. 23rd to February 27th with a few days off here and there. This is for all of our hunting disciplines... Archery, crossbow, general gun, muzzle loader and antlerless...

Brent
 
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