Anti-Gunners are out in force

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BoogieMan

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This recent tragedy has brought out a plethora of anti gun activists. All of the major networks have had interviews with so called experts on the subject of gun control. At my local range they had 2 activists try to force there way onto the range. Just as a reminder to everyone that you need to keep your cool with these idiots. If your short tempered don't engage them if you do engage them be calm. The last thing to do is loose your cool and give them more to hate.
The states with the strictest gun control tend to have the highest crime rates. More gun deaths in Chicago in the last 2 weeks than in CO etc.. Explain to them what an assault rifle is and that it is not the same as the AR's that are available to the public. Explain to them that 986000 people are employed by the industry, $30.9 annually.
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An interesting question is nobody has really tried to push gun control in the media for some time now. Just the occasional "O how sad that nobody is using this tragedy to push gun control" editorial.

This is the first real coordinated (and it is coordinated) effort I've seen to make gun control an issue by the media in some time. I wonder why they have been dormant for so long and why they are going to make their push now?
 
Bartholomew Roberts wrote: I wonder why they have been dormant for so long and why they are going to make their push now?
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The lull is likely because the media knows that the issue is not a popular topic as far as getting new restrictions in place. My guess is they are trying to kick start this topic in the upcoming presidential election.
 
The lull is likely because the media knows that the issue is not a popular topic as far as getting new restrictions in place. My guess is they are trying to kick start this topic in the upcoming presidential election.
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They have a pretty good chance at winning the upcoming. This tradgety is the perfect opportunity to de-sensatize the masses to the idea of banning all firearms. If there guy gets in there is no chance for him to runa again and he can do whatever he wants. Moving the proverbial window left a bit.
 
What were they trying to do...or accomplish?
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The range employees were not saying. Im not sure why? Apparently the front gate was left open and 2 guys came driving in and jumped out heading for the range. They were grabbed up by the RSO or someone at the range and thats all the info I heard.
As someone else said I would welcome the opportunity to take any Anti shooting for the day. Im sure there outlook would change once they had the opportunity. Great people, lots of fun.
 
Explain to them what an assault rifle is and that it is not the same as the AR's
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Sir, i have tried my damnedest to do this with great futility, i tell them the true definition of an assault weapon is a select fire weapon, with a lever that will allow full automatic firing. i get replies like, "that don't mater, it's still an assault gun". when i get negative replies like that i know that to continue, i might just lose my cool and go ballistic, i usually say, "what an idiot" and walk away.
 
This is the first real coordinated (and it is coordinated) effort I've seen to make gun control an issue by the media in some time. I wonder why they have been dormant for so long and why they are going to make their push now?
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IMO, it's a last stand.

They've been losing ground pretty much everywhere but in some extreme holdout states like CA. Look over the last ten to fifteen years and what has gone on. Shall-issue concealed carry is in more states than not. The 1994 AWB has sunset and it has zero chance of being revived in the near future. Many states have been eliminating their permit to purchase systems for handguns. Gun ownership rates are climbing and shooting as a hobby is becoming very mainstream, especially in the last few years. And last, but definitely not least, the SCOTUS has found that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right, greatly changing the landscape of the debate (previously, the environment was you could have any ban you could get passed... now, not so much).

The anti-gun groups have been reeling, losing members and money. Now they have a big tragedy they can point to, and they sense that this is one of their last chances to make any inroads. They will make some, but the complete lack of support I've seen for any new laws says that this is going to turn out like most last stands- there's a very short period where people pay attention and they have a minor effect right before they're steamrolled into oblivion. Their ability to restart discussion on potential gun control laws is only going to remind gun owners that there is still a vocal opposition to our rights... it will galvanize the pro-RKBA crowd and we'll continue on to do what we've been doing for the last several years- win elections and legislature votes, continuing the march of freedom.

They're noisy, but this is more likely to serve as a wakeup to the forces of freedom than as a resurgence for the anti crowd.
 
The anti-gun groups have been reeling, losing members and money. Now they have a big tragedy they can point to, and they sense that this is one of their last chances to make any inroads. They will make some, but the complete lack of support I've seen for any new laws says that this is going to turn out like most last stands- there's a very short period where people pay attention and they have a minor effect right before they're steamrolled into oblivion. Their ability to restart discussion on potential gun control laws is only going to remind gun owners that there is still a vocal opposition to our rights... it will galvanize the pro-RKBA crowd and we'll continue on to do what we've been doing for the last several years- win elections and legislature votes, continuing the march of freedom.
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The outrage has already died down. Obama has dodged the issue. The hardcore gun control crowd is still running around trying to get people's attention but as the facts have come out the general sentiment seems to be focused on the killer and not his tools.

I agree that this may have been seen as another opportunity, but it seems to be another unsuccessful attack on gun rights. I think that the gun control crowd may have soured people on their agenda by so blatantly attempting to exploit this tragedy.
 
Even Bill O'Reilly got it wrong. Following is the copy of my E-Mail to him.



Mr O'Reilly
Your reports are for the most part accurate and balanced. Unfortunately, your piece on regulating machine guns, rocket propelled grenades and other destrutctive devices is TOTALLY incorrect.

A simple goggle search by your staff would have revealed the following:
Machine Guns are highly regulated.

1. To legally own a machine gun one must comply with the National Firearms Act which was enacted in 1934 and is found at 26 U.S.C. ch. 53, The act basically requires the payment of a tax and registration with the Feds. I believe the controling agency is the BATF.

2. Except for a limited number of persons, it is illegal for a private citzen to own, possess or sell a destructive device ( 26 U.S.C. § 5845(f). The type of devices which you called for regulation are allready intensly regulated by the BATF.

To my knowledge, only one murder has been committed by a legally held machine gun. That was committed by a Police Officer who murdered his wife with his DEPARTMENT ISSUED WEAPON.

This letter was in response to his talking points memo of July 24, 2012. It may be found at Bill O'Reilly http://www.billoreilly.com.

Read the article and send corrections to him.
 
Anti-gunners have an arsenal of events, talking points, legislation, speeches, press releases, etc. all prepared in advance of any shooting that gets national attention. Anyone who thinks for a moment that the antis somehow react to what actually happened are way behind the eight-ball. They care about one thing only - pushing their agenda forward and getting back at you and me for a key piece of legislation that was permitted to expire. That made them angrier than a nest of hornets being poked with a cane poll.
 
What you have to do is to convince people that a small number of deaths from the illegal use of firearms is acceptable and that the only solution is more firearms on the street.
 
Itc444 good for you for sending O'Reilly the facts.

He might not even see your email or believe it if he does see it but it makes me feel better knowing that someone at least tried to present the truth and correct his mistakes.
 
What you have to do is to convince people that a small number of deaths from the illegal use of firearms is acceptable
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I don't know that it's ever acceptable, but we must understand that living in a free society carries some risks, including the occasional act of violent crime. Restricting freedoms doesn't do much to reduce that risk.
 
Something for all to think about.........

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