Anti-2nd amendment cops

[JoshB]

I keep my DL, CHL and POI all in my wallet and they are out and at the window with both hands in view (one holding the wallet, the other handing the needed items) ready to hand the policeman before he even gets out of his car.

I don't say "I've got a concealed weapon," or "gun on me" I hand him all three of the above with the CHL on top.

Doug, this is exactly what I did. By handing the cop your carry permit you're letting him know that you're a law abiding citizen [you bother to get a permit before you get a gun, you let the cop know you have it, etc] and that you're armed long before he has an opportunity to see a gun and come to his own conclusions.
Besides, don't they know you have a permit just by running your tags? Well that doesn't apply to rental cars, but it would in most cases.

 

[Doug.38PR]

I've always been told that's risky. It would require rummaging through my glove compartment or center console, something that would not look appealing to a cop in a cruiser behind me.

That's exactly why I keep it all IN MY WALLET to avoid leaning over digging through the glove compartment. I keep my wallet in my back pocket or in my inside coat pocket to avoid a lot of moving around in the car.

Besides, don't they know you have a permit just by running your tags?

I'm told they know when the scan your DL that you have a CHL (that's why you ALWAYS produce it with your DL).

By handing the cop your carry permit you're letting him know that you're a law abiding citizen [you bother to get a permit before you get a gun, you let the cop know you have it, etc] and that you're armed long before he has an opportunity to see a gun and come to his own conclusions.

Exactly, and they've always just ask "do you have the gun on or about your person?" Only once did a deputy ask me out of the car to secure it and handed it right back to me after looking at it in his headlights (It was an old style Colt OP and he was an collector himself) Other times they just say "Keep the gun where it is and we'll get along fine." Only once in a traffic checkpoint did the officer pay no mind to the CHL and just let me go after checking my DL and POA

 

[Danzig]

Like others here, I am bothered that you seem to feel entitled to special treatment simply because you are in the military (I am a Staff Sergeant in the US Army with almost 10 years of service). Our place in the military does not ENTITLE us to special treatment from anybody. Like you, I am grateful when someone acknowledges the contributions and sacrifices we make..but nobody but the federal government owes us anything. "Professional courtesy" is just that..a courtesy..not a right.

I believe that to be a problem today..people believing that they are entitled to special consideration. They are not. You are not. I am not.

The cop you dealt with may very well be anti self defense..but I do not believe that it influenced in any way his treatment of you. You were mildly inconvenienced. That is all.

 

[jcoiii]

I cannot find any anti-2a actions in the original post. No lectures about "why do you need a gun?" or anything like that. One unloaded it, one asked you to unload it. This is one time where the cliche "officer safety" should be understood by all.

Now, as for getting a ticket: oh well, them's the breaks. I've been let go for 60 in a 35 (on Christmas eve) when the sign changed on a major highway going from open road to city limits. I just missed the sign and was coasting down the hill. I was not an LEO at the time (though I am now). Just so you know, sometimes you get off, sometimes you don't. That goes for cops and military too. Sometimes I write tickets to cops, emergency personnel, and military. Sometimes I don't. Goes equally for everyone not listed in that sentence too.

 

[Glock2000]

I have a CHP and am in the Army...done two tours, I think I'm pretty handy with the steel. If it makes the officer feel more comfortable for me to surrender my pistol or for it to be unload...no problem. If I were in his shoes, I'd want to feel as safe as possible and would expect a so called "law abiding citizen" to respect that.

As far as expecting a "PX discount" in a traffic stop with local troopers/police...give me a break. As a Military Officer you should be above looking for hand-outs. You broke the law. As a leader you are trained to take responsibility for your actions. I've had a few speeding tickets in my days and I don't recall the Police Officers asking for a Military ID card...so handing him one unsolicited is called begging IMHO. What happened to being not only an Officer but also a gentlemen. It's a code. If the officer discovers that you are in the service and on his own accord decides to cut you some slack...that's his perogative. While it much appreciated...it should never be expected.

I appreciate your service and hope you can heed my thoughts as a kind word and not a lecture.

 

[sanson]

my dad was in the army so later in life as a cop he felt slightly pressured to give servicemen a break. depends on attitude like anything else. he also told me to beware state troopers, they'll ticket their mother

 

[Doug.38PR]

I think shortly before the author of this post entered this world, my dad was on his way back driving through east Texas trying to get back home because his wife was expecting. He was going a little fast and was pulled over by a LEO. Somehow or other (I think dad had a baseball cap in the back seat or a card in his wallet that the policeman saw) the officer found out dad was in the Marine Corp. He ask dad why he was in such a hurry, dad told him, the guy said "Tell, you what, from one marine to another, I'm gonna letcha take off."