Hello
I started a lead bullets in 30-30 thread awhile back and showed the lead bullets I had planed to use
Yesterday I was looking at the box and thought , hmm flat nose might not be the best for 308 but lets see if these .309 diameter bullet will seat and chamber in a 308 case and chamber . Short answer is yes no problem , chamber in all 4 of my 308 rifles .
This leads me to go look up load data for lead bullets in the 308 cartridge . What I saw roughly mirrored the 30-30 ( not really ) but a lot of the same powders at close to the same velocities-ish .
Most in the 1800 to 2200fps range ,however there were some loads that were in the 2600fps area which I thought was pretty fast since I barely get my 168gr smk that fast out of my 308's
Many questions on all this is
1) are these .309 bullets ok to shoot out of a standard factory 308 rifle ( Savage , Ruger etc
2) regardless of components should I keep these under 2300fps
3) If pushing hard (2400fps+) do these need a gas check
4)I want to use H-335 or IMR-4895 but only see data using the heavier bullets ( Lyman cast bullet manual )
5) Should I even bother using these bullets in a 3o8 bolt gun
6) I have an AR-10 type rifle but most powders seem kind of fast to be used in a gas gun . Does anyone shoot lead out of there gas guns and well below the velocities you generally see in this cartridge . Example I just don't see a load using powder 2400 at 1800fps cycling the bolt or heck IDK maybe being way over gassed with the longer dwell time at 1800fps
As to the bolt gun use , My grandson is about at the firearms teaching age and my Ruger American might be a nice step up from the 22lr he'll likely learn on , wish I had a 223 rem bolt gun which would be a good step up from 22lr
General thoughts ?
MG
I started a lead bullets in 30-30 thread awhile back and showed the lead bullets I had planed to use
Yesterday I was looking at the box and thought , hmm flat nose might not be the best for 308 but lets see if these .309 diameter bullet will seat and chamber in a 308 case and chamber . Short answer is yes no problem , chamber in all 4 of my 308 rifles .
This leads me to go look up load data for lead bullets in the 308 cartridge . What I saw roughly mirrored the 30-30 ( not really ) but a lot of the same powders at close to the same velocities-ish .
Most in the 1800 to 2200fps range ,however there were some loads that were in the 2600fps area which I thought was pretty fast since I barely get my 168gr smk that fast out of my 308's
Many questions on all this is
1) are these .309 bullets ok to shoot out of a standard factory 308 rifle ( Savage , Ruger etc
2) regardless of components should I keep these under 2300fps
3) If pushing hard (2400fps+) do these need a gas check
4)I want to use H-335 or IMR-4895 but only see data using the heavier bullets ( Lyman cast bullet manual )
5) Should I even bother using these bullets in a 3o8 bolt gun
6) I have an AR-10 type rifle but most powders seem kind of fast to be used in a gas gun . Does anyone shoot lead out of there gas guns and well below the velocities you generally see in this cartridge . Example I just don't see a load using powder 2400 at 1800fps cycling the bolt or heck IDK maybe being way over gassed with the longer dwell time at 1800fps
As to the bolt gun use , My grandson is about at the firearms teaching age and my Ruger American might be a nice step up from the 22lr he'll likely learn on , wish I had a 223 rem bolt gun which would be a good step up from 22lr
General thoughts ?
MG
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