Another Knife vs Gun: Look at how Close the Assailant was allowed to Get...

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...and how many shots (I count at least 13) including clearing a stoppage.
https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/arti...t-after-stabbing-in-fight-over-wearing-a-mask

another angle:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article244215747.html

It would "appear" she missed to the left on all of the first 5 rounds -- and kept missing even as the assailant bent down/was still to retrieve his knife after being (apparently) hit in the arm.

She is very lucky....
and once again demonstrated how a close-in gun/knife fight can go wrong very fast.
 
Looks to me like he had a screwdriver in the had he led with and a knife in the other. Leading with the knife could have made this a big problem for the deputy, but she sure handled it well. I'm glad she did.
 
Funny part is that I did not seen any blood on the shirt after so many rounds.
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From what I can tell she hit him in the lower abdomen 3 times and once in the left leg. If you watch the street to his left as he advances you see a round strike.

The way she handled the stoppage makes me think she is a regular shooter.
 
I wish I knew how frequently she trained. Because if this is what happens to a regular shooter under stress, it's pretty sobering to have so many rounds miss. Her grip separated after the first shot, misses were low and to the left even at very close range. And this is with a duty sized pistol, and some degree of warning about the assailant.

Ditto on clearing the stoppage. That was smooth, just after getting whacked with the screwdriver too. Didn't seem like she even had to think about it.

It makes me think: How would I do with my pocket pistol? Would 7 + 1 be enough? On the other hand, I've heard rumors about a statistic that most firearm incidents are over after the first 2 shots.
 
I posted another link of this on a thread that ended up locked; vis a vis mouse guns. One particular member denied seeing contact between LEO and Perp. even after watching the video 5 times.

That said, who saw in the split second the contact that rendered the duty arm 'jammed' (FTE) and requiring a tap rack bang drill?
 
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This sure wasn't a miss
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I can't tell if she was hitting before that, but even if she was, that seems to be the shot that finally got his attention. You can see him sort of stumble, drop what was in one of his hands, grab for his crotch and sort of lift his left leg to protect his groin area.

Interesting that the light on her gun seems to have been turned on at some point.

It's also interesting that she seems to have had an unintentional discharge immediately after clearing the malfunction but before she brings the gun back up on target.
Looks to me like he had a screwdriver in the had he led with and a knife in the other.
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I believe it was a screwdriver and scissors. I think she's lucky that they were more stabbing weapons than cutting weapons or she might have been injured when he closed with her.

If you can find a video with good audio and that spans the whole encounter, you can hear the attacker repeating everything she says to him. I don't know if he was crazy/disturbed, or if that was some kind of a ploy to distract her and allow him to get closer.
 
It amazes me how many folks think being shot makes the person always stop/drop immediately
What one sees on TV simply isn’t real life

Of her first five shots, three can be seen hitting him in the upper body, one just missed to the left
It appears the majority of her second string hit him in the upper body as well

I’ve seen a 150# deer take a 308 through heart and both lungs (mangled both)
Then run at top speed over 200 yards before finally slowing and then laying down
As it ran it looked like an old train with steam blowing out both sides at each breath

One of the many reasons I just sigh when I see people going on about handgun caliber and expansion
 
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From what I can tell she hit him in the lower abdomen 3 times and once in the left leg. If you watch the street to his left as he advances you see a round strike.
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I don't know what video you watched. I've watched three or four different sites' versions of this incident, including one on YouTube that I slowed down to 25% speed, and I didn't see any rounds hit the street.
 
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That said, who saw in the split second the contact that rendered the duty arm 'jammed' (FTE) and requiring a tap rack bang drill?
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It looked to me like the slide was locked open before the perp made contact.
 
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I don't know what video you watched. I've watched three or four different sites' versions of this incident, including one on YouTube that I slowed down to 25% speed, and I didn't see any rounds hit the street.
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I don't know what video you watched. I've watched three or four different sites' versions of this incident, including one on YouTube that I slowed down to 25% speed, and I didn't see any rounds hit the street.
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This is what I saw on the video that made me thing it was a strike. When I watched it again, I'm now not certain it is a strike.
 

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Somewhat relevant...

Many years ago I was an avid paintball player. One day a friend and I were goofing around in the woods with our paintball gear and he screamed and charge me shooting. Well, of course I shot the heck out of him.

He ran right up to me and touched me (in PB that is considered an 'out'). I asked him how many times I had hit him and he responded 'look down'. About 3 inches in front of my feet was a big patch of red paint.

All of my shots (probably 5-10 shots) had been shot almost straight down.

I'd love to think I would be able to respond as effectively as she did, but I always think back to that day and wonder if I would survive.
 
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