Amish 15-year old girl ....
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I predict that as a result of...
- The improbability (infinitesimal) of eventual bullet strike,
- The totally unintentional consequences,
- The immediate report/assumption of responsibility,
- The depth of true remorse,
- The forgiveness of the family & community expressed in court...
...there will be a very, very light sentence with no incarceration.
The true sentence will be continuing to live there.
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- The improbability (infinitesimal) of eventual bullet strike,
- The totally unintentional consequences,
- The immediate report/assumption of responsibility,
- The depth of true remorse,
- The forgiveness of the family & community expressed in court...
...there will be a very, very light sentence with no incarceration.
The true sentence will be continuing to live there.
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Most I've seen around these parts are enclosed with nothing more than a canvass type, waterproof, soft top. Not for sure but I think the nicer, more solid enclosed types are no more than a very thin plywood.
Also agree that mehavey's prediction could possibly be close. Will probably also depend on how hard the prosecutor push's the case.
Prof Young
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Not an accident
The Amish girl was not killed accidentally. She was killed by negligence. According to the initial report this guy intentionally shot his gun into the air in order to unload it. That is stupid negligence. This was man slaughter and the guy should have been charged.
What do idiots think happens to the bullet of a gun shot into the air. It's just plain stupid to think that it's ever safe to shoot a gun into the air.
Kind of hard line? You bet. Fire arms owners are supposed to be responsible safe people.
LIVE WELL, BE SAFE
Prof Young
The Amish girl was not killed accidentally. She was killed by negligence. According to the initial report this guy intentionally shot his gun into the air in order to unload it. That is stupid negligence. This was man slaughter and the guy should have been charged.
What do idiots think happens to the bullet of a gun shot into the air. It's just plain stupid to think that it's ever safe to shoot a gun into the air.
Kind of hard line? You bet. Fire arms owners are supposed to be responsible safe people.
LIVE WELL, BE SAFE
Prof Young
Aguila Blanca
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The firearm did not discharge due to mechanical malfunction or because the owner dropped it. It discharged because he pulled the trigger. There was nothing accidental about it. The fact his intentional action resulted in an unintended result does not make it an "accident." It was negligence, not an accident. To me that spells negligent homicide.dfw-teacher said:
Aguila Blanca, you might want to modify that last post. The fact that he pulled the trigger, while pointing the gun into the air, makes it negligence.
As you currently have it laid out, it could be interpreted that a ricochet from what appeared to have been a good backstop would be "negligence."
The pulled trigger alone isn't the thing.
As you currently have it laid out, it could be interpreted that a ricochet from what appeared to have been a good backstop would be "negligence."
The pulled trigger alone isn't the thing.
Without going back and re-reading complete thread, didn't someone earlier in the thread compare this to a car accident. If so, I fail to see the comparison.
If I take my car out in the country where there's little population, knowing it has no brakes, or the gas pedal is sticking to the floor and I run over someone killing them do to the brakes or pedal failing, is that an accident or involuntary manslaughter/negligent homicide?
If I'm carrying my hunting weapon via a sling on my shoulder, I fall, my weapon discharges, shooting someone that's an accident.
Same scenario as above but I know my safety is broke, I couldn't call that an accident.
As sad as it is for everyone concerned , I just don't see this ending in the shooting ' accident' files without further stipulations.
If I take my car out in the country where there's little population, knowing it has no brakes, or the gas pedal is sticking to the floor and I run over someone killing them do to the brakes or pedal failing, is that an accident or involuntary manslaughter/negligent homicide?
If I'm carrying my hunting weapon via a sling on my shoulder, I fall, my weapon discharges, shooting someone that's an accident.
Same scenario as above but I know my safety is broke, I couldn't call that an accident.
As sad as it is for everyone concerned , I just don't see this ending in the shooting ' accident' files without further stipulations.
whippoorwill
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Accident, negligence... whatever, a young life was lost and many other folks will hurt for the rest of their lives. I can't imagine that jail time would do anything to help this sad story. It's a terrible thing, but surely it was unintentional.
I would ask those of you who are sharing with the rest of us what a careless fool he was... Do you ever talk on your cell phone when driving? If so, you are just as "negligent" as he was, if not more so; as the chances of having an accident while driving and talking on the phone are greater than that of killing someboby in the manner outlined in this story. As I said to a dear friend of mine once, everytime you have a phone conversation in your car, you're increasing the chances of killing someone's 16 year-old daughter. She wasn't happy, but my point wasn't to make her happy. Sermon over for now.
I would ask those of you who are sharing with the rest of us what a careless fool he was... Do you ever talk on your cell phone when driving? If so, you are just as "negligent" as he was, if not more so; as the chances of having an accident while driving and talking on the phone are greater than that of killing someboby in the manner outlined in this story. As I said to a dear friend of mine once, everytime you have a phone conversation in your car, you're increasing the chances of killing someone's 16 year-old daughter. She wasn't happy, but my point wasn't to make her happy. Sermon over for now.
^^^Agreed^^^
The very reason Ohio is outlawing handheld cell phones while driving and soon will outlaw cell phones altogether(hand held and remote) while driving.
Not only a chance of causing an accident but causing me to have a heart attack whilst I'm cussing you, following in the five mile procession of traffic you're holding up.
The very reason Ohio is outlawing handheld cell phones while driving and soon will outlaw cell phones altogether(hand held and remote) while driving.
Not only a chance of causing an accident but causing me to have a heart attack whilst I'm cussing you, following in the five mile procession of traffic you're holding up.
Aguila Blanca
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Good point. Thanks for the clarification.MLeake said:
"Trial by internet" is such a wondeful thing...
- there's no *facts*.
There's hearsay from some news out takes.
Unless anyone here is part of the investigation and/or an eye witness, then all this talk is simply opionions based on a few printed lines.
Can we please quit calling for a rope and tree here?
- there's no *facts*.
There's hearsay from some news out takes.
Unless anyone here is part of the investigation and/or an eye witness, then all this talk is simply opionions based on a few printed lines.
Can we please quit calling for a rope and tree here?
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