America's Most Wanted: Leading the lambs to slaughter
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EchoFiveMike
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What's an ROE? Oh! You mean the stuff we ignore. BTW I wasn't trying to bash old people, cripples etc. The people in the video all looked fairly young and spry, so they have no excuse there. Guess everyone isn't 25, 6'2" and 195lbs, 8yrs in the USMC huh? Semper Fi...
What a bunch of bunk. I read their 10 things adults can do. Loved "Dont carry a weapon" Why the F not? The BGs do, and I am all for fair play, as long as I have the upper hand that is 
Id much rather be in a situation where he is at my mercy and not the other way around. If faced with some similar situation (God I hope never) I'd like to think that I could act with a little more manhood than wetting my pants and letting them have my wife. You never know, I may just wet my pants, but God help me if I am going to train myself to do that. Wonder what he women's rights groups are thinking about classifying your wife with property. I mean for years we have been hammered that we should not fight and kill for mere property. I guess now we are going to be told that human life is not worth anymore than mere property. The whole BS system is designed to give those among us with absolutely no balls, respect for life... some self esteem. All these sheeple need is an excuse to say well everybody sais you should just give in. I'm just following advice. Its not my fault that my wife/girlfriend/daughter was gangraped and tourtured to death. As far as I am concerned if we all took it upon ourselves to make the life of a criminal incredibly dangerous we would surely see a bit less of it.
Wasn't the hosts wife killed or something?? Maybe we should ask the bozo if he feels like giving in was worth it?
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If stupidity hurt, liberals would be walking around in agony.
Id much rather be in a situation where he is at my mercy and not the other way around. If faced with some similar situation (God I hope never) I'd like to think that I could act with a little more manhood than wetting my pants and letting them have my wife. You never know, I may just wet my pants, but God help me if I am going to train myself to do that. Wonder what he women's rights groups are thinking about classifying your wife with property. I mean for years we have been hammered that we should not fight and kill for mere property. I guess now we are going to be told that human life is not worth anymore than mere property. The whole BS system is designed to give those among us with absolutely no balls, respect for life... some self esteem. All these sheeple need is an excuse to say well everybody sais you should just give in. I'm just following advice. Its not my fault that my wife/girlfriend/daughter was gangraped and tourtured to death. As far as I am concerned if we all took it upon ourselves to make the life of a criminal incredibly dangerous we would surely see a bit less of it.Wasn't the hosts wife killed or something?? Maybe we should ask the bozo if he feels like giving in was worth it?
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If stupidity hurt, liberals would be walking around in agony.
masshooter
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I once studied japanese kara-te with an american instructor. He told the class something to the effect of "good will never triumph over evil unless it is willing to do what is necessary to win". I believe that. Unfortunately, the sheeple do not. But think of the bright side: if most of our country is sheeple, that gives the rest of us the opportunity to be their shepards. After all, who would resist??
My wife and I usually spend Saturday evening watching AMW. We were both asking ourselves though, "What the hell is this stupid segment?" Although, we both like the fact that this show helps to bring BGs to justice this segment was flat out stupid!
My wife said she would never let some guy take her away. I agreed that I would never let anyone take her or another woman from me--such as a coworker, friend, acquaintance and ESPECIALLY a sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, daughter, etc. Certainly I have stronger feelings for my own kin, but c'mon, how can a person live with themselves knowing that they were in a position to do something to prevent a kidnapping/rape/ murder?
I agree with one of the above posts about some fates are worse than death or even the potentiality of dying. It's better to die (or be maimed) with honor than to live with dishonor.
Also, I'll DO SOMETHING and take a bullet in the eye than to watch some worthless ***k rape my wife.
My wife said she would never let some guy take her away. I agreed that I would never let anyone take her or another woman from me--such as a coworker, friend, acquaintance and ESPECIALLY a sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, daughter, etc. Certainly I have stronger feelings for my own kin, but c'mon, how can a person live with themselves knowing that they were in a position to do something to prevent a kidnapping/rape/ murder?
I agree with one of the above posts about some fates are worse than death or even the potentiality of dying. It's better to die (or be maimed) with honor than to live with dishonor.
Also, I'll DO SOMETHING and take a bullet in the eye than to watch some worthless ***k rape my wife.
Since I am long past my prime, I figure I have about 30 seconds of wind in me to use, so I plan to use it to the fullest. Groin, eyes, ears, throat, whatever it takes to survive. In a choice of your death or my life there is no choice for me.
As for Mr. Walsh and his show, I have always refused to watch it. My father was on the police force that was in charge of the investigation of the death of Walsh's son. He was supposidly kidnapped from a Sears store in the middle of the afternoon. His decapitated body was found several weeks later. Questions were raised, but never answered as to the whereabouts of Mr. Walsh during this time, his relationship with possible drug dealers (known to make their point by decapitation), and why his multi-million dollar lawsuit against Sears was dropped before trial (Sears had video cameras and tapes that covered the entire store that raised some interesting questions also). My father, a detective at the time always had the gut feeling that Mr. Walsh was a sleeze and had more information than he was willing to give to the police. I trust my dad and his instincts.
Of course, Walsh must be some kind of hero, he has his own TV show dosen't he?
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
-- H.L. Mencken
As for Mr. Walsh and his show, I have always refused to watch it. My father was on the police force that was in charge of the investigation of the death of Walsh's son. He was supposidly kidnapped from a Sears store in the middle of the afternoon. His decapitated body was found several weeks later. Questions were raised, but never answered as to the whereabouts of Mr. Walsh during this time, his relationship with possible drug dealers (known to make their point by decapitation), and why his multi-million dollar lawsuit against Sears was dropped before trial (Sears had video cameras and tapes that covered the entire store that raised some interesting questions also). My father, a detective at the time always had the gut feeling that Mr. Walsh was a sleeze and had more information than he was willing to give to the police. I trust my dad and his instincts.
Of course, Walsh must be some kind of hero, he has his own TV show dosen't he?
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
-- H.L. Mencken
EFMike -
I certainly didn't take your remarks as a slam. In fact, had to go back to see what you were talking about. My only point was that I have a firm grasp of my limitations. Although I still think that if it came to it, for at least a few minutes I can run faster scared than most perp's can mad.
And, I'll repeat, I will not go quietly into the night!
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
I certainly didn't take your remarks as a slam. In fact, had to go back to see what you were talking about. My only point was that I have a firm grasp of my limitations. Although I still think that if it came to it, for at least a few minutes I can run faster scared than most perp's can mad.
And, I'll repeat, I will not go quietly into the night!------------------
"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
Jeff Thomas
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I missed the segment, but this is disappointing.
The one piece of advice I have heard over and over is to never, ever go willingly to a secondary crime scene. Statistically, it is almost certain death.
And, I watched a presentation by a detective once on TV. Sharp guy, big handlebar mustache. Interesting character. He pointed out that if you run, only a small percentage of BG's will shoot. And, if they shoot, only a small percentage of them will hit you. And, if they hit you, only a small percentage of those hits will be serious. And, if they hit you, and it is a serious hit, then only a small percentage of those serious hits will kill you.
However, if you willingly climb into the trunk (as in this example), then you have nearly a 100% chance of being killed at the secondary crime scene.
Made a lot of sense to me. And, if you carry a firearm and know how to use it, and you must use it, then it improve those odds even more. It's harder to hit someone who is shooting back, I suspect ...
It is a damn shame that so much of our 'establishment' seems devoted to encouraging us to act like sheep.
The one piece of advice I have heard over and over is to never, ever go willingly to a secondary crime scene. Statistically, it is almost certain death.
And, I watched a presentation by a detective once on TV. Sharp guy, big handlebar mustache. Interesting character. He pointed out that if you run, only a small percentage of BG's will shoot. And, if they shoot, only a small percentage of them will hit you. And, if they hit you, only a small percentage of those hits will be serious. And, if they hit you, and it is a serious hit, then only a small percentage of those serious hits will kill you.
However, if you willingly climb into the trunk (as in this example), then you have nearly a 100% chance of being killed at the secondary crime scene.
Made a lot of sense to me. And, if you carry a firearm and know how to use it, and you must use it, then it improve those odds even more. It's harder to hit someone who is shooting back, I suspect ...
It is a damn shame that so much of our 'establishment' seems devoted to encouraging us to act like sheep.
You know, you could REALLY be of use to the BG and help hold your wife's arms down while they raped her. That would be the next logical step to this approach.
Seriously, there's another dimension to this that nobody has mentioned. The more brutally the victims respond to violent crime, the more dangerous it becomes for the BG. BGs live in a predatory world, mostly preying off of each other. Injury or disability in this predatory environment invites attack from other BGs. Even if you don't seriously injure your attacker, often a swift, violent response can dissuade the BG due to the fact that they are looking for low-risk victims to minimize their own chance of injury.
Contrary to popular belief, violence does often solve problems.
Eyeballs make good targets.
Seriously, there's another dimension to this that nobody has mentioned. The more brutally the victims respond to violent crime, the more dangerous it becomes for the BG. BGs live in a predatory world, mostly preying off of each other. Injury or disability in this predatory environment invites attack from other BGs. Even if you don't seriously injure your attacker, often a swift, violent response can dissuade the BG due to the fact that they are looking for low-risk victims to minimize their own chance of injury.
Contrary to popular belief, violence does often solve problems.
Eyeballs make good targets.
Can't remember the exact quote from Jeff Cooper, but it goes something like this -
"The only proper response to the threat of violence is sudden and unrestrained violence in kind."
I'm sure I've butchered that somewhat, but it doesn't change the truth of it.
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
[This message has been edited by mk86fcc (edited March 03, 2000).]
"The only proper response to the threat of violence is sudden and unrestrained violence in kind."
I'm sure I've butchered that somewhat, but it doesn't change the truth of it.
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
[This message has been edited by mk86fcc (edited March 03, 2000).]
I'm glad I missed that episode. I like the show but the self defence tips are usually stupid.
The crime statistics clearly show that you have a better chance if you resist PERIOD.
I will not let any other person controll my fate. I may die but I will someday anyway so what do I care. If enough sheeple bow down to the criminal then crime will just get worse and worse untill the only way to take back out neighborhoods is an all out war in the streets. Just because a robber or other malcontent is armed and I am not is not sufficient reason for me to let him have his way. I just hope he doesn't target practice a lot because I'm going to try to take his gun and shove it up his rectum.
NEVER GIVE UP
LOCHFAL
The crime statistics clearly show that you have a better chance if you resist PERIOD.
I will not let any other person controll my fate. I may die but I will someday anyway so what do I care. If enough sheeple bow down to the criminal then crime will just get worse and worse untill the only way to take back out neighborhoods is an all out war in the streets. Just because a robber or other malcontent is armed and I am not is not sufficient reason for me to let him have his way. I just hope he doesn't target practice a lot because I'm going to try to take his gun and shove it up his rectum.
NEVER GIVE UP
LOCHFAL
FWIW: I thought all of you might be interested in the response I got from AMW. It was rather short, "Thank you for your response to America's most wanted." I got the impression it was an auto response to the feedback script that I used.
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It is far better to dare mighty things, though riddled with failure, than to live in the dull grey of mediocrity.
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It is far better to dare mighty things, though riddled with failure, than to live in the dull grey of mediocrity.