Melvin-Purvis
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Yeah...
...what labrat said...lol
...what labrat said...lol
"Always Rifle" some thoughts
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craigz: Hand-carryable yes exactly, so I can bring it into the office instead of leaving it in the car without being obvious that I am carrying a rifle. I am not trying to suggest this idea/concept is practical...just trying to find something that makes dragging this toy around as practical as I can. A Mini-14 with folding stock would probably work well (accuracy aside) but I want a bit more gun. Or if I didn't want a repeater a TC Encore or Contender Rifle would work very well.
I like the take down 45-70's, but they really aren't a gun I want to plink with a lot.
The folding stock set up (from Robar's QR2-F) would make the always rifle about a FOOT shorter than my Steyr Scout. My Scout rifle is about 39" OAL, the Ruger Compact with 16.5" brrl is 35" with folding stock it would be about 26" [ATF legal min].
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So to those that like 308 or such for this nich, would you really spend a day shooting coyotes or rodents with a light wt 308?
I like the take down 45-70's, but they really aren't a gun I want to plink with a lot.
The folding stock set up (from Robar's QR2-F) would make the always rifle about a FOOT shorter than my Steyr Scout. My Scout rifle is about 39" OAL, the Ruger Compact with 16.5" brrl is 35" with folding stock it would be about 26" [ATF legal min].
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So to those that like 308 or such for this nich, would you really spend a day shooting coyotes or rodents with a light wt 308?
Okay here`s my stab at this. Winchester Trapper carbine 16" barrel in .30-30. Takedown conversion, Ramline Syntec woodgrain fiberglass stocks (for lightweight but the PC look),leather buttcuff with 9 extra rounds, Ashley standard dot tritium front sight, Lyman peep rear (remove the peep for Ghostring sight picture),Ching sling,Pachmayer Decellerator recoil pad. Short load the mag with 3 or 4rds. to save the mag spring,top off from the butt cuff. Carry in a briefcase in urban settings with a clip on pouch or cartridge belt of more spare ammo and other necessary items,flashlight,knife,etc. Marcus
It seems to me you already have the perfect always rifle, a Steyr Scout. But from what you said in your post, perhaps you want justification to simply buy a new rifle. The Ruger Compact is 5 3/4 pounds, a quarter pound less than the Steyr without a scope. I honestly think you will be 6 3/4 pounds scoped, slinged and loaded with the Ruger.
It also seems to me that weight is more of a factor if you are humping up and down hills all day rather than a couple hours.
My biggest problem with the Ruger Compact is the 16 1/2 inch barrell--too loud. I use hearing protection except when bird and big game hunting. My .243 and 30.06 are very loud but are tolerable the couple times I have shot at animals but I don't think I could handle anything much louder. Those shooting magnums at my local range must be supermen because I can't shoot when they are doing so because of the noise--and I am wearing plugs and muffs!
The Ruger All-Weather Ultra Light is available in .243, is 6 1/2 pounds with a 20" barrell. The Savage Sierra is similar, a little cheaper and 6 pounds.
It also seems to me that weight is more of a factor if you are humping up and down hills all day rather than a couple hours.
My biggest problem with the Ruger Compact is the 16 1/2 inch barrell--too loud. I use hearing protection except when bird and big game hunting. My .243 and 30.06 are very loud but are tolerable the couple times I have shot at animals but I don't think I could handle anything much louder. Those shooting magnums at my local range must be supermen because I can't shoot when they are doing so because of the noise--and I am wearing plugs and muffs!
The Ruger All-Weather Ultra Light is available in .243, is 6 1/2 pounds with a 20" barrell. The Savage Sierra is similar, a little cheaper and 6 pounds.
How about an H&R single shot. If you're taking it everywhere, might as well start with a $100 rifle.
Actually, the Savage model with a center fire over a shotgun bore might be nice, in the right calibers.
A single shot can be reloaded quite quickly with the ammo in reach. I've shot two skeet out of the air with a single shot shotgun before.
Actually, the Savage model with a center fire over a shotgun bore might be nice, in the right calibers.
A single shot can be reloaded quite quickly with the ammo in reach. I've shot two skeet out of the air with a single shot shotgun before.
I'm in the .308 school myself. Mainly for the military interchangability, adequate power and penetration.
Ideally, I'd be launching the round through a slightly modified M1A Scout, a custom Mauser Practical Rifle (of my own design not yet realized), or my current pet a Winchester SS Classic .308
I understand the 110 grain Hornady TAP round is very light in the recoil department especially run through the M1A. Also, the 130 grain Barnes XBT is supposed to be hot in the .308 case. Or you could just get an ammo can of FMJ and forget about it...
I really don't expect to be in a firefight- are terrorists going to paradrop into my backyard? These guns would be light enough to carry while I'm running away fast.
A far as concealing the rifle- Grendel (sp?) used to make a 10 round folding tactical stock for a Sako A II action- wasn't a big seller- but might be your ticket...
Ideally, I'd be launching the round through a slightly modified M1A Scout, a custom Mauser Practical Rifle (of my own design not yet realized), or my current pet a Winchester SS Classic .308
I understand the 110 grain Hornady TAP round is very light in the recoil department especially run through the M1A. Also, the 130 grain Barnes XBT is supposed to be hot in the .308 case. Or you could just get an ammo can of FMJ and forget about it...
I really don't expect to be in a firefight- are terrorists going to paradrop into my backyard? These guns would be light enough to carry while I'm running away fast.
A far as concealing the rifle- Grendel (sp?) used to make a 10 round folding tactical stock for a Sako A II action- wasn't a big seller- but might be your ticket...