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Aguilla 22 sub sonic ammo
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Jamie Young
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I'm not going to claim I know for sure but I heard that Aguilla 22 Sub Sonic ammo isn't something you want to shoot out of a Ruger Mark II. I asked about Sub Sonic ammo in my Mark II because my friend was having a squirrel problem and we needed something that wouldn't PO the Neighbors. I was told that its not something that will reliable cycle in some Semi Autos. Just passing the info on.
nine fingers
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I have used this ammo in a bolt action rifle and a revolver. It is VERY quite, but has only about the power of a pellet gun. It won't cycle the action of your semi-auto rifle or pistol (I've tried). If your target is under 50 feet away you might make a kill.
Are you talking about the Sniper Subsonic or the Colibri rounds. I have used both in my 10/22, Marlin 39A and Ruger MK II.
The Sniper Subsonic has a 60 grain bullet that cycles semi-auto's with absolutely no problems. The round is quite accurate and does not have the supersonic crack but is still quite loud and would be noticed by your neighbhors unless it is the 4th of July.
The Colibri, on the other hand, is a 20 grain bullet which is only propelled by the Eley primer. On the plus side, it is no louder than a BB gun but will still punch through a beer can at 30 feet. I can load about 20 of them in my Marlin 39A and use them for varmit control (moles, blackbirds, etc.). The Colibri, however, will not cycle semi-auto rifles or pistols but they can be used in them. You just need to manually cycle the bolt. Also the last round will not usually feed from the magazine. Other than that - it works just fine. If you have a lever, bolt action rifle or revolver you will have no problems. I believe there is a modification that you can get for the 10/22 to allow it to shoot .22 shorts. It has a lighter bolt and spring and it may be light enough to allow cycling of the Colibri's.
Aguila has some great loads and products for the .22 and other calibers. Including some neat mini shotgun shells.
Here is the link:
http://www.aguilaammo.com/rimfire.htm
The Sniper Subsonic has a 60 grain bullet that cycles semi-auto's with absolutely no problems. The round is quite accurate and does not have the supersonic crack but is still quite loud and would be noticed by your neighbhors unless it is the 4th of July.
The Colibri, on the other hand, is a 20 grain bullet which is only propelled by the Eley primer. On the plus side, it is no louder than a BB gun but will still punch through a beer can at 30 feet. I can load about 20 of them in my Marlin 39A and use them for varmit control (moles, blackbirds, etc.). The Colibri, however, will not cycle semi-auto rifles or pistols but they can be used in them. You just need to manually cycle the bolt. Also the last round will not usually feed from the magazine. Other than that - it works just fine. If you have a lever, bolt action rifle or revolver you will have no problems. I believe there is a modification that you can get for the 10/22 to allow it to shoot .22 shorts. It has a lighter bolt and spring and it may be light enough to allow cycling of the Colibri's.
Aguila has some great loads and products for the .22 and other calibers. Including some neat mini shotgun shells.
Here is the link:
http://www.aguilaammo.com/rimfire.htm
I've used the Aguila .22 SSS SniperSubSonic, thought it was a neat idea. It's quieter than .22 lr, louder than a .22 short low velocity, and functions all semi-autos I've tried it in. In the two handguns and three rifles I've used it in accuracy is adequate out to 30 yards, after that they keyhole. Slide velocity seems very high, noticably faster than with std 22 lr ammo. I broke two extractors in my Ruger Mark II before ceasing use in autoloaders, thought the first was a random failure, broke the second one in less than 20 rounds. This ammo may work well with a faster twist barrel and a heavier bolt/spring in an auto. I'll stick with conventional .22 lr for my .22 rifles and handguns.
I use CCI Short Target ammo for in town subdivision squirrel removal. It is accurate and quiet, about the volume of a cat sneezing, when fired in a rifle.
I was astounded when I shot at a 2x4 set sideways one day. All the bullets plowed right through. I began to respect this round a lot more that day. It even dropped a crow at 50 feet deader that four o'clock with one shot. Then I was really impressed! Those bastards can be hard to kill.
I was astounded when I shot at a 2x4 set sideways one day. All the bullets plowed right through. I began to respect this round a lot more that day. It even dropped a crow at 50 feet deader that four o'clock with one shot. Then I was really impressed! Those bastards can be hard to kill.
The case is the same length as a Long Rifle but the bullet is a 20 grain truncated cone. It is about half the length of a regular .22 bullet. Therefore it takes up less space than a Long Rifle.
Colibri
20 grain bullet
375 FPS*
6 lbs of energy*
Super Colibri
20 grain bullet
in bullet
500 FPS*
11 lbs of energy*
* = muzzle
Colibri
20 grain bullet
375 FPS*
6 lbs of energy*
Super Colibri
20 grain bullet
in bullet
500 FPS*
11 lbs of energy*
* = muzzle
I've fired maybe 20 rounds of the SSS loads through a Ruger 10/22 without any problems. The heavy bullet makes a pretty impact on the 50 yard berm; I imagine it packs a good punch. It doesn't seem any quieter than high speed .22 LR rounds though.
I shot an armadillo in the head at about 25 feet with the Colibri 375 fps round. He jumped straight up in the air then took off at high speed. Judging from the absence of his holes in the yard after that he doesn't seem to be coming around any longer. The Colibri is essentially silent; the impact of the firing pin and the impact of the pellet on the target are louder than the report. But after failing to stop that dillo, I think I'll try the Super Colibri next.
I shot an armadillo in the head at about 25 feet with the Colibri 375 fps round. He jumped straight up in the air then took off at high speed. Judging from the absence of his holes in the yard after that he doesn't seem to be coming around any longer. The Colibri is essentially silent; the impact of the firing pin and the impact of the pellet on the target are louder than the report. But after failing to stop that dillo, I think I'll try the Super Colibri next.
Just for the sake of completeness, here's a list of the "subsonic" Aguila .22 ammo I've seen:
Colibri - 20 grain bullet
Super Colibri - 20 grain bullet
Subsonic, Round Nose - 40 grain bullet
Subsonic, Hollowpoint - 38 grain bullet
Subsonic Sniper (SSS) - 60 grain bullet
The plain Subsonic with the 40 grain, round nose lead bullet is great target ammo for pistols. I'm planning to buy a case or two as soon as the importer starts shipping again.
I believe that the 38 grain hollowpoint load is identical to PMC Moderator.
Colibri - 20 grain bullet
Super Colibri - 20 grain bullet
Subsonic, Round Nose - 40 grain bullet
Subsonic, Hollowpoint - 38 grain bullet
Subsonic Sniper (SSS) - 60 grain bullet
The plain Subsonic with the 40 grain, round nose lead bullet is great target ammo for pistols. I'm planning to buy a case or two as soon as the importer starts shipping again.
I believe that the 38 grain hollowpoint load is identical to PMC Moderator.
CITADELGRAD87
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I bought both the Colibri CB cap and the 60 grain stuff this weekend, tried them both in my 22/45.
Both are pretty accurate, but the 60 is, as above, loud.
The CBs are very quiet, but nowhere near silent. They sound about like a pneumatic BB gun.
Unscientifically, I fired 2 CBs in my garage with the door down, at a 2x4.
They were firmly embedded in the wood, one I can wiggle and probably get out without much trouble, the rear of the other is flush with the surface of the wood.
Both are pretty accurate, but the 60 is, as above, loud.
The CBs are very quiet, but nowhere near silent. They sound about like a pneumatic BB gun.
Unscientifically, I fired 2 CBs in my garage with the door down, at a 2x4.
They were firmly embedded in the wood, one I can wiggle and probably get out without much trouble, the rear of the other is flush with the surface of the wood.
Don't wanna break my 22/45
Hey Kerth, you've got me all scared to shoot the .22 SSS now. I just bought a brick to try out in my Ruger .22, but I'd hate to if it's going to ruin my gun? According to the specs on Aguilas website the SSS has such a low muzzle velocity, how could it be breaking anything? Could it be because of the heavy 60 gr. bullet? Has anyone else experienced failures in their guns when using SSS? I think I'll hold off shooting this stuff for a while :-(
Hey Kerth, you've got me all scared to shoot the .22 SSS now. I just bought a brick to try out in my Ruger .22, but I'd hate to if it's going to ruin my gun? According to the specs on Aguilas website the SSS has such a low muzzle velocity, how could it be breaking anything? Could it be because of the heavy 60 gr. bullet? Has anyone else experienced failures in their guns when using SSS? I think I'll hold off shooting this stuff for a while :-(
I put about 500 rounds of the SSS Sniper Subsonic through my Mark II with no problems and about 1500 through my 10/22. With the above experience and that Ruger firearms tend to be overbuilt - I'm confident that it will hold up. The SSS, however, does have a shorter case like a .22 short. Maybe this could cause extraction problems but I have not seen any. YMMV.
Have not had experiance shooting the Aguila sub sonic ammo,but their HV stuff is OK.
Out of my suppressed 10/22,the best results for me have been with Winchester Subsonic.I beleave they use the same projectile as the HV Powerpoint.Zeroed at 30 mtrs my rifle will put 5 ronds into a 10 cent peice.I have found this round to be quite accurate and the bullet type VERY efficant at killing Opossums (the type of fury woodland creatures I hunt).Plucked Opossum fur fetch's $90.00 a kilo,but it must not have blood and gore on it.(18 ...25 'possums per kg).A good shooter can do 3kg's a nite ,easy. Head shots are a must and with this combo the 'possum can be head shot out to about 50 mtrs with ease.I have recovered projectiles that have entered the head and come to rest against the skin,mid way down the body,nicly expanded to 38 cal. Other brands just don't seem to have the accuracy or the ability to bring about a clean one shot kill.So what looks like a cheap deal will end up costing more in the long run.Have gone from 1.5 rnds per kill with Win Subsonic's to more than 3.5 with cheaper brands.If you are hunting with low vel .22 ammo , you need to stack the odds in your favour.Try the Wincester stuff,I doubt you'll be dissapointed.
btw, Oppossum's are about the size of a large cat, we have them in plauge proportions here and shooting them is a great way to subsidise our shooting activities.
Out of my suppressed 10/22,the best results for me have been with Winchester Subsonic.I beleave they use the same projectile as the HV Powerpoint.Zeroed at 30 mtrs my rifle will put 5 ronds into a 10 cent peice.I have found this round to be quite accurate and the bullet type VERY efficant at killing Opossums (the type of fury woodland creatures I hunt).Plucked Opossum fur fetch's $90.00 a kilo,but it must not have blood and gore on it.(18 ...25 'possums per kg).A good shooter can do 3kg's a nite ,easy. Head shots are a must and with this combo the 'possum can be head shot out to about 50 mtrs with ease.I have recovered projectiles that have entered the head and come to rest against the skin,mid way down the body,nicly expanded to 38 cal. Other brands just don't seem to have the accuracy or the ability to bring about a clean one shot kill.So what looks like a cheap deal will end up costing more in the long run.Have gone from 1.5 rnds per kill with Win Subsonic's to more than 3.5 with cheaper brands.If you are hunting with low vel .22 ammo , you need to stack the odds in your favour.Try the Wincester stuff,I doubt you'll be dissapointed.
btw, Oppossum's are about the size of a large cat, we have them in plauge proportions here and shooting them is a great way to subsidise our shooting activities.
pepemarine
New member
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIKE THE AGUILA LOADS I HAVE ONE COMMENT:
GET AS MANY AS YOU CAN!
HERE IN OLD MEXICO THE PLANT THAT PRODUCES THE AMMO WENT CRAZY. THEY FIRED EVERYONE AFTER THE STRIKE AND THE NEW EMPLYEES WHO ARE TRAINING PRODUCE VERY LITTLE. HERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS TO GET A FEW ROUNDS OF SHOTSHELL, IMAGINE WHEN THE U.S. WAREHOUSES ARE EMPTY, ITS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS FOR AVAILABILITY OF THIS AMMO.
KEEP BLASTING!
GET AS MANY AS YOU CAN!
HERE IN OLD MEXICO THE PLANT THAT PRODUCES THE AMMO WENT CRAZY. THEY FIRED EVERYONE AFTER THE STRIKE AND THE NEW EMPLYEES WHO ARE TRAINING PRODUCE VERY LITTLE. HERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS TO GET A FEW ROUNDS OF SHOTSHELL, IMAGINE WHEN THE U.S. WAREHOUSES ARE EMPTY, ITS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS FOR AVAILABILITY OF THIS AMMO.
KEEP BLASTING!
Pvt. Joker
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CB LONGS
Hey guys, Is it true that CB Longs will wear out a barell pretty fast? Also, Where can I get some of the Colbi (sp) sub sonice, the 350someFPS stuff. I will only be shooting about 15 Yards.
-Jared
Hey guys, Is it true that CB Longs will wear out a barell pretty fast? Also, Where can I get some of the Colbi (sp) sub sonice, the 350someFPS stuff. I will only be shooting about 15 Yards.
-Jared