After Boston is our reloading hobby at serious risk?

Here in CA, there is a bill before the legislature (AB 760) to add a 5 cent tax per bullet or per component (yes, you read that correctly).

Hmm, 5 cents for one piece of new Starline, 5 more cents for 1 primer, 5 more cents for 1 more Montana Gold 147gr JHP -- the taxes alone would be more than I ever paid to reload a round in my life (if I were using new brass).

Good news is I could apparently buy 8 pounds of VVn330 and pay only 5 cents in additional tax.

Yup, it's long past time for these politicians to go back to whatever planet they came from...
 
$5 tax on a tray of primers, a box of bullets, and a bag of brass.. $15 in tax revenue to load one hundred rounds(not counting the powder, because 8# of powder loads a lot more than 100 rounds), or $10 in tax revenue to buy 100 rounds. There's gotta be something out there that makes that legally wrong as well as intellectually wrong.
 
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Everyone need to just be quiet and don't post anything politicians can use in crafting the bill. Keep your yapps shut. We should know, Calguns was the site trolled by the California politicians to make sure they included any "loop holes" out members were foolish enough to point out/post about.
Just don't say anything they can use against us.
Moderators, please, please, please delete anything which can be used against us.
 
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Sorry, but no. We're a smart bunch. Some folks on here are really smart. However, I can't imagine we're going to come up with an idea or strategy for gun control that hostile politicians won't.
 
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However, I can't imagine we're going to come up with an idea or strategy for gun control that hostile politicians won't.
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I dunno, Tom. Politicians have been extremely unsuccessful in coming up with the idea of "stop monkeying with the 2A." :p
 
Let me give an example,' in California, they outlawed rifles with detachable mags which didn't require a "tool" of some sort to release it. We came up with the bullet button. This time around, they took our ideas and wrote them, at times, ver batem, into the bill and are using it against us. Another example is them banning solely centerfire rifles, well, we started using the AR platform to shoot .22's. All the while congratulating ourselves on how smart we were compared to the idiot politicians. Guess what, this time around they included rimfires. Just a suggestion I thought I'd throw out there.
They do monitor these sites, and they do keep track.
 
Jim, I understand what you're saying, I just didn't expect to see the quantity of dust/vapor/etc for that size and figured it must have been from the combustion of the explosive material.
 
Let me give an example,' in California, they outlawed rifles with detachable mags which didn't require a "tool" of some sort to release it. We came up with the bullet button. This time around, they took our ideas and wrote them, at times, ver batem, into the bill and are using it against us. Another example is them banning solely centerfire rifles, well, we started using the AR platform to shoot .22's. All the while congratulating ourselves on how smart we were compared to the idiot politicians. Guess what, this time around they included rimfires. Just a suggestion I thought I'd throw out there.
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We know all of this. But we also know they can be too smart for their own good. When Senator Feinstein's AWB came out, I paid special attention to her "thumbhole stock" prohibitions because her summary made it appear she would even ban a single shot black-powder rifle with one.

There's Senator McCarthy who famously believes a barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up.

There's a lawmaker in Colorado who was "tired" and "mistakenly" implied a belief that magazines and clips were not reusable.
 
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Self-censoring because someone on the other side might get an idea from us is a heck of a slippery slope. The cure is far worse than the potential symptom.
 
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As far as I know, IEDs are already illegal to manufacture. Should we also ban all components that qualify for the word "improvised"? That's why they are "improvised", because they do not use standard and regulated components. Should we ban all non-regulated components that can potentially be used for such devices? Seriously?

This will harm all firearms enthusiasts and shooters who make their own ammo. Additionally, this will hurt people who reload to save money.

There was an accident at that Texas fertilizer factory which caused a huge explosion (my thoughts and prayers to all those affected). Should we also ban fertilizers and cause food shortage?
Obviously another thought-lacking push by gun control advocates.

The only ban I will agree on is a ban on tragedy-exploiting politicians who stand on the bodies of the dead and the injured to further their selfish and unfair agendas.
 
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Well it turns out it wasn't reloading powders.

Fox news is reporting now that the explosive propellants were from fireworks the bad guy bought at Lock and Load Fireworks.

Of course that doesn't mean guns and reloading components still wont get the blame.
 
The details may have been, but not the gist of the point- Meida Perception Study the last section of the previously linked article- that incorrect reporting early tends to stick in the public's memory, regardless of subsequent developments and/or retractions.

Freedom of the Press is a great thing. And this phenomenon, as well as the media's affect on the Logical Fallacy of Misleading Vividness mentioned in another linked blog are the price we pay for that Freedom and it's benefits.

These will both have an effect on the danger to our reloading hobby. People are still calling for taggants in reloading powder. We're seeing legislation to put more than a 15 cent tax on hand loaded rounds, compared to a 5 cent tax on factory rounds.
 
The report I saw on the fireworks speculated that they only got half a pound of powder or so from them. Maybe that flash powder was the primary ignition for something else like regular black powder?
 
In answer to the question orgnishions here have being making bombs for decades using various ingredients black powder included. But black powder shooting is popular and black powder is available permit required. So if you can get it in the UK i can't see there being a problem in America.
 
Reloading at risk?

If you are going to be accurate and technical. Modern smokeless powder is NOT an explosive. It is a propellant. Gasoline is an explosive. If they want to ban something, Ban gasoline.:mad:
 
Modern smokeless powder is NOT an explosive. It is a propellant. Gasoline is an explosive.
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Gasoline is a flammable liquid, not an explosive. Also, while used in a cartridge of ammunition, smokeless powder is a propellant, its also considered a flammable solid, and may actually be treated as a class b explosive if you transport over 100lbs in a commercial shipment, last I heard. So I would be careful with blanket statements about what is, or is not this catagory or that catagory. An item may be used for something it was not designed for and then the definition of where that item falls would be expanded.
 
Fishing Cabin; Gasoline in its vapor state is explosive! Cars would not run if it didn't detonate. One gallon of gas in its "vapor" state has the explosive power of 5 sticks of dynamite! Gas fumes EXPLODE if confined!
 
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